Posts by Fernando

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Testimony card returns

by sir82 in

jw
friends

old timers, or careful readers of the proclaimers book, are familiar with the "testimony card" used in the early days of rutherford-era door to door witnessing.

the jw would traipse up to a house, knock, hand the card over to the householder, and wait while he read it.. well, it seems that "everything old is new again".

here is an excerpt from a recent boe letter:.

Fernando

1. Make "Testimony Cards" with a QR code to JWFacts.com

2. Swop out with your JW partner's stash

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i was told by jw's that angels came down to earth before the flood, and had children with women.. i have a question about this and would like the sort of answer a jw would give so that i can be ready for them when they come to my door.. if one third of god's angelic staff were banished to earth, are they doing this now?.

if not, what is stopping them?.

if so, where are all these half angel children?.

Fernando

The 2012 and 2013 wt libraries are available on the internet for download.

Publications from 2000-2014 can be accessed via: http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/h/r1/lp-e

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angels and women

by caroline77 in

i was told by jw's that angels came down to earth before the flood, and had children with women.. i have a question about this and would like the sort of answer a jw would give so that i can be ready for them when they come to my door.. if one third of god's angelic staff were banished to earth, are they doing this now?.

if not, what is stopping them?.

if so, where are all these half angel children?.

Fernando

*** w82 8/15 pp. 25-26 pars. 6-7 Heed the ‘Warnings Placed Before Us’! ***

6 Giving a second warning example, Jude wrote:

“And the angels that did not keep their original position but forsook their own proper dwelling place he has reserved with eternal bonds under dense darkness for the judgment of the great day.” (Jude 6)

Angels were created as spirit creatures, having the prospect of eternal life in heaven. (Psalm 103:20; 104:4; Hebrews 1:7) That was their beginning, their “original position.” “Their own proper dwelling place,” or intended habitation, was in the invisible heavens. But certain angels presumptuously forsook their proper heavenly home. The apostle Peter said that they “sinned,” and immediately thereafter he cited events of Noah’s day. (2 Peter 2:4, 5) This draws attention to the preflood time when “the sons [the fifth-century Alexandrine Manuscript of the Septuagint Version says “angels”] of the true God,” apparently by materializing fleshly bodies, disobediently took good-looking women as wives. (Genesis 6:1, 2) Since cohabitation with women was unnatural for spirit creatures, these angels sinned by yielding to what for them was totally wrong desire. (James 1:13-15) Similarly, the “ungodly men” of whom Jude spoke desired to have immoral relations with persons of the opposite sex.

7 What happened to the disobedient angels served as a warning to Christians of Jude’s day, and serves as a warning to Jehovah’s Witnesses of modern times. Although those angels could escape death in the deluge by dematerializing, they were prevented from returning to their “original position” as holy spirit creatures enjoying the light of God’s counsel and approval. Rather, they have been reserved with “eternal bonds,” with God’s powers of restraint, until the divine “judgment of the great day” of their destruction. Meanwhile, there is no indication that they can materialize fleshly bodies, and they remain out of Jehovah’s service, in dense spiritual darkness, in so-called Tartarus.—2 Peter 2:4.

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Can an Anointed be Disfellowshipped by the Elders of Earthly Class Now?

by ProfCNJ in

hi folks.

anointed jws have heavenly hope, including the esteemed privilege of reigning as kings and priests with jesus christ.

while they preach and share practially the same spiritual activities as members of the other sheep (os) do, an anointed jw has a greater distinction.. come now the disfellowshipping standards.

Fernando

*** w07 5/1 p. 31 Questions From Readers ***
However, genuine anointed Christians do not demand special attention. They do not believe that their being of the anointed gives them special “insights,” beyond what even some experienced members of the great crowd may have. They do not believe that they necessarily have more holy spirit than their companions of the other sheep have; nor do they expect special treatment or claim that their partaking of the emblems places them above the appointed elders in the congregation. They humbly remember that some anointed men in the first century did not qualify to serve as elders or ministerial servants.

(Is this where the demoting of "the anointed" from their position as FDS started, so that the GB could declare themselves the FDS????)

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You think the WTBTS is bad? Watch this

by Hortensia in

a friend sent me this link, so i watched it.

it's a bit hard to watch.

some truly evil shit goes on in the catholic church, and somehow they think pope francis is going to change that.

Fernando

Thank you for sharing.

It would be great to have a parallel documentary about the WBTS which is no different at all.

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Did You Ever Get Screwed By A Jehovah's Witness?

by minimus in

jw
friends

witnesses are supposed to be the "most honest people in the world".

most jws i know of do not put business deals in writing.

they simply "trust their brother".

Fernando

A number of times - and the sordid details are unmentionable.

I was "screwed" figuratively, and repeatedly.

My wife was raped literally, from age 6 to 13.

BTW, they are all still in "good standing" (with the apostate Watchtower Corporation, and its apostate ruling religious clergy class and hierarchy).

At least one is an elder.

Another was a Circuit Overseer before.

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We are an Evil Aposta-Family

by Skinnedsheep in

jw
friends

in the last 6 months my family and i have stopped attending cold turkey.

it is incredible to me to see how our so called friends have dropped us like we were a snake covered in spiders.

we actually havent really said anything to anybody about why we stopped.

Fernando

What a blessing for your family to be shown clearly what they have left behind.

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Richard Dawkins defends mild pedophilia, says it does not cause lasting harm

by chrisuk in

http://www.salon.com/2013/09/10/richard_dawkins_defends_mild_pedophilia_says_it_does_not_cause_lasting_harm/.

Fernando

Could someone concisely explain:

what is "mild pedophilia"?
if an argument is being advanced that it should be more acceptable?
if yes, is this a valid argument?
if no, what is the purpose of the word "mild"?

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WATCHTOWER on revelation's MYSTERY GREAT BABYLON, And your view about it

by gggolovkin in

i think wt interpretation about the rev.

mystery great babylon is too general, saying that is all false religion..... from reading revelation, it looks more specific because it says, it is the mother, ( maybe origin or root ).... what's your view ?

thank u and hoping for ur replies.