Atlantis is on fire!
Oh dear, just when we thought the apostate Watchtower Organisation's foundations could not get any shakier...
It seems we are here looking at the father of Watchtower lies, chauvinism, and power mongering...
Fernando
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Mrs. Russell's Tract - Anyone Seen It?
by Freedom77 ini was just looking over this list of wt lies http://hourglass2.com/historical/the-list/list7_03.htm and found the following, circa 1906, in the middle of a self-justification by ct russell about his ex-wife:.
by 1903 mrs. russell had laid by in bank a little sum of money which evidently was consecrated to the injury of her husband.
the opportune time for its use came, and with it she published a new kind of tract .. to misrepresent me, to slander me.
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Is their any evidence/proof that the G.B.enjoy first class flights accomodation in their travels ?
by smiddy ini`m just curious about the travel arrangements of the g.b.members when they travel overseas to conventions in europe , africa , australia , etc.. is their any verifiable documents /receipts etc.
that prove they stay in the most up market hotels , or fly first class in planes ?, being treated like v.i.p.`s ?.
no human being is exempt from the temptations of abusing his power or position of authourity , especially when big money is involved , and the g.b.
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Fernando
We need another high-level defection to get the inside scoop it seems...
Maybe GB fanatacism will once again push someone over the edge...
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easy take down of Jehovah's Witnesses
by runForever inwe all know jehovah's witnesses/gb through their approved publications teach to marry "only in the lord.".
well this is simply impossible for the rank and file.
they are not considered in jesus or part of his body which is exactly what that.
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Fernando
Of course the GB reckon that marrying "in the Watchtower religion" is the same as marrying "in the Lord".
Giving evidence that they have "seated themselves in the seat of Moses" as self-appointed pseudo-mediators between God and man.
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easy take down of Jehovah's Witnesses
by runForever inwe all know jehovah's witnesses/gb through their approved publications teach to marry "only in the lord.".
well this is simply impossible for the rank and file.
they are not considered in jesus or part of his body which is exactly what that.
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How do you feel ethically about the Governing Body?
by runForever inif something terrible were to happen to the members of the current gb would you feel bad?.
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Fernando
Jesus said to their forefathers that they were from their father the devil.
Sanhedrin, Governing Body? One and the same. Including their destiny.
Promote/d apostate legalism and moralism.
Draw followers after themselves, and away from God and his son.
Outwardly righteous, but inwardly corrupt and evil.
Deny access to Kingdom (autonomy).
Obfuscate and truncate the liberating gospel of grace.
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Delete Personal Messages
by Maranatha ini've never been on a website that doesn't allow you to delete your own personal messages.
why can we not do that on this site?
what are your motives in keeping our personal messages?
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Fernando
What steve2 so aptly said.
Hang in there please Maranatha.
There is amazing power in diversity.
The opposite of divide and conquer.
I'm sure this can get sorted and blow over.
Greetings and blessings
Fernando
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37 years later, I finally got the CULT thing
by Freedom77 inhi all, just happened to come across this site again after 10 or 12 years - i see some old posts of mine under a diff username (can't reopen the account, forgot the freakin' password).
i left the borg in 1977, age 21, haven't looked back but every now and then i am amazed to find there's some old, old attitude from the jw days that i find is still clinging to my pants leg like a stray sticker.. looking over some of the posts here and some linked ex-jw sites yesterday it finally hit me - it is an effing cult.
when i was in, we were always accused of being that, so naturally we totally spouted the society's line and got all defensive, etc.
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Translating JWFacts to Spanish... Update?
by ILoveTTATT inas you all may know, it is an ongoing project to translate jwfacts to spanish.
given that there are more than 2 spanish-speaking jw's for every one that speaks english, it can be safely said that spanish is the #1 language in the jw world (even though everything is made originally in english).. the spanish-speaking jw's are harder to convince.
i attribute it almost 100% to socioeconomic factors.
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Fernando
I don't want to distract from the great work being done, but would love to learn more about the publisher statistics in the OP.
"there are more than 2 Spanish-speaking JW's for every one that speaks English"
Astounding!
I would never have guessed, but wish I was more informed.
Does anyone know the numbers?
English vs Spanish vs Total publishers?
Just glancing at the publisher stats isn't much help if one knows little about which countries speak Spanish.
Example: USA 1,219,931 publishers, Spain 110,940 publishers (2013).
Under Spanish Language in Wikipedia: "Approximately 414 million people speak Spanish as a native language, making it second only to Mandarin in terms of its number of native speakers worldwide."
And under the native Spanish speakers by country sub-heading: Mexico - 110,974,139, and USA - 38,325,155, and world - 437,451,369.
Under English Language in Wikipedia: " It is the third-most-common native language in the world, after Mandarin Chinese and Spanish." (1999 source).
What a surprise.
Anyone have the corresponding JW numbers/totals?
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Is this a new "This Generation" or not?
by Doug Mason infirst of all i want to express my sincere gratitude to atlantis and his good friends for making this 2014 book available.. ------------.
as i see it, and i am absolutely open to contradiction, the wts appears to be giving another new meaning to this generation.
this time the term means all of his anointed followers, including his immediate disciples.
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Fernando
Interesting...
They believe they are right no matter how wrong they are.
What if God believes they are wrong no matter how right they are?
(2 Thessalonians 1:7, 8) . . .the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels in a flaming fire, as he brings vengeance upon those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus.
(Matthew 7:22, 23) . . .Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness.
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Governing Body Will Get to Kill Worldly People at Armageddon! Gods Kingdom Rules Quote
by lostnotfound inso scanning through the gods kingdom rules i found this gem on page 228.. .
"in heaven, the 144,000 corulers with christ will recieve authority to share with jesus in weilding an "iron rod" of destruction against all enemies of gods kingdom.
( rev 2 26,27) then, together with powerful angels, the resurrected anointed ones will follow christ, the warrior king, as he sets out to confront the "vast army" of enemies that is closing in on its prey - jehovahs people.".
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Fernando
As the enemies of God's Kingdom (human autonomy) do the GB get to kill themselves?