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  Surprising how WBTS became EXACTLY what Russell was against.

  by Fernando in

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  *** jv chap.

  15 p. 205 development of the organization structure ***.

  however, brother russell emphasized that they were not attempting to set up an earthly organization.

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  Fernando

  *** jv chap. 15 p. 205 Development of the Organization Structure ***
  However, Brother Russell emphasized that they were not attempting to set up an “earthly organization.” Rather, he said, “we adhere only to that heavenly organization—‘whose names are written in heaven.’ (Heb. 12:23; Luke 10:20.)” Because of Christendom’s sordid history, reference to “church organization” usually reminded a person of sectarianism, clergy domination, and membership on the basis of adhering to a creed formulated by a religious council. So, when referring to themselves, Brother Russell felt that the term “association” was a better one.
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  "They've made us debt FREE !!!"

  by gingerbread in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so proclaimed the brother that read the wt letter tonight that explained the new kingdom hall funding arrangement.. everyone in the hall claps .... well, like it was the last talk on the district convention.. he says 'what bank would wipe out a debt of $200,000 ???

  only jehovah's organization!

  isn't this wonderful !!!".

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  Fernando

  Like Xanthippe said, to avoid negative thoughts, think stupid ones instead. Much better for the longevity of the cult.
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  5 years inactive and still sometimes I'm haunted.

  by ctrwtf in

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  i've lately been thinking about the pernicious nature of the belief by the jw's that they are the one and only true religion.

  how this belief allows for an egotistical world view and allows them to shun and denegrate those that do not share their opinions.. please pardon my round about thinking process as i've been mulling this rant for some time.

  while my father's side of the family has been entrenched with the jw's for two generations before him, my mother was a new convert.

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  Fernando

  Isn't it weird how we were able to rationalize and dismiss generations and decades of family dysfunction, toxicity and destructiveness when we were still in the cult?
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  I had a funny feeling he was a Witness... and now I need help.

  by noontide in

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  im in a bit of a bind and im not quite sure what (if anything) i can do about it.

  i was recently hired as a business consultant for a rather large company.

  the company that hired me mentioned that they are concerned about a certain department and the way its being run, as this department affects every other department in the company.

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  Fernando

  Good advice all round I believe.

  What about asking him if he could do anything he liked in life what would it be.

  That is what he should be doing instead, and where he is likely to fit in better.

  A good psychologist could help him uncover and reassess his worldview to provide him with any clarity he seems to be lacking.

  In CBT (in psychology) our behaviour and beliefs have to align or we will experience Cognitive Dissonance.
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  How to cope with depression?

  by make yourself in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i know its very common for jws and ex jws to deal with depression.

  maybe it's a side effect of cognitive dissonance or the whole outlook on life being a jw.

  but what are some ways to cope with depression?

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  Fernando

  Just watched a program on SBS where new research is discovering how important microbes in our mouth, stomach and intestines are to our overall health.

  Re-instating missing microbes was reported as curing depression, cancer etc (in certain cases)

  http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/234273859562/Life-On-Us

  http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/234273859563/Life-On-Us
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  Babylon the Great is the BIGGEST Harlot!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  two key scriptures in revelation give a description of btg, and by doing so, identify to whom the name "babylon the great" applies.

  revelation 17:5,6 says, "babylon the great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.

  " and i saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of jesus".

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  Fernando

  "...it was the religious leaders of these people, who perverted true worship and persecuted all who tried to expose them!"

  Indeed, and well written The Searcher.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses's Matthew 24:14 Good News of the Kingdom.. A different Good News Galatians 1:9

  by objectivetruth in

  1. watchtower
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  jehovah' witnesses use matthew 24:14, and their world wide preaching work, as proof, that they are the only "organization" that is doing jehovah's will.. what if the good news that they are preaching is a false good news or as paul would call it "a different good news"?

  is there any value to a world wide preaching work, that is preaching a false good news?

  or should that entire work be accursed?.

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  Fernando

  The problem with Matt 24:14 and the Watchtower's reductionist interpretation of it, is that they end up with a one-ingredient gospel.

  The whole gospel has at least 30 essential ingredients.

  If a medicine had 30 essential ingredients, the one-ingredient version would be a dangerous counterfeit.
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  They are i- Pad Nutty Now

  by Poztate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so many at my wife's hall have rushed to buy i-pads,androids etc for use in servicetm and at the hall.. most know little or nothing about how to use them but have joined the stampede to jw.org tm and the reinvention of the wtbts.. it prompted one elder at my wife's hall to have a seminar at his house to explain how to use them in service and at the hall.. how exciting.... one 80 year old pioneer woman will be there with her new toy.. as a distraction it seems to be working quite well.

  no need to worry about 1914 or other issues.. they are all nuts and getting nuttier....

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  Fernando

  Actually using the search facility of the Watchtower library is what led to my exit.

  Tech savvy dubbies may not be such a bad thing...
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  Abrahamism vs Gnosticism in a Nutshell :)

  by ProdigalSon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.armageddonconspiracy.co.uk/sex-for-salvation-ii%282395055%29.htm.

  judaism claims that the way to god is through obeying endless rules allegedly imposed by god.

  the great philosopher immanuel kant claimed that judaism wasn't a religion at all, but a mere body of laws.

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  Fernando

  @BOTR

  Yes, but maybe not the type you are referring to.

  According to most Bibles' rendition of John 17:3 we are saved by KNOWING the father and son in a personal relationship.

  The Watchtower however can't tolerate such a situation and instead teaches that we are saved by taking in KNOWLEDGE (supplied by the Watchtower) about the father and son. This teaching is also in evidence in their deceptive rendering of John 17:3 in the NWT. This is apostate supremacist religious Gnosticism.

  The Watchtower's apostate anti-Christ agenda is advanced by four main pillars: legalism, moralism, ethnocentrism and supremacist religious Gnosticism.
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  How to cope with depression?

  by make yourself in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i know its very common for jws and ex jws to deal with depression.

  maybe it's a side effect of cognitive dissonance or the whole outlook on life being a jw.

  but what are some ways to cope with depression?

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  Fernando

  There are many medicines:

  1. Exercise is medicine
  2. Walking is medicine
  3. Talking medicine (Psychologist, especially CBT)
  4. Socialising is medicine
  5. Sleep is medicine
  6. Fruit and vegetables are medicine
  7. Hobbies are medicine
  8. Finding and clarifying identity, meaning, engagement and pleasure are medicines that make us happy
  9. Autonomy, Mastery and Purpose are Medicines that motivate us
  10. Meditation is medicine
  11. The whole gospel is a powerful and natural medicine
  12. Not so good medicine - synthetic, addictive and psychoactive iatrogenic medicine (Psychiatrists)