i had the misery recently of attending the sad.. the bethel speaker looked and sounded like the usual corporate businessman after your money.. during his main talk, he praised a recent bethel member who left his college (aka university) course early to pioneer and join bethel.. that followed experiences from window cleaners, unemployed, parents home-schooling (aka child abuse - it is a basic human right to be educated) their kids and those baptised as children (youngest was 10).. the brainwashed dubs applauded every ruined life paraded on the platform.. these bethel speakers have been around long enough to know exactly what they're doing - they are evil men, ruining peoples' lives, breaking up families and masquerading as holy men.. their time will come when they face god - too late for the many ruined by their filthy lies and false hopes.. sorry to sound bitter, but to my shame i had a part in this cult as an elder.
what part of my brain did i lose to not see through this rubbish?.
better late then never though.
i knew several witless families that home-skooled their kids. those kids grew up to be practically illiterate adults. i saw the curriculum - it wasn't a bad one. the parents were too busy pio-sneering and el-duh'ing to help their kids get a decent education.
@chickpea: that's great that you are an exception to this! it's too bad that more parents to not take their responsibilities more seriously, as you did.
hmmm.
either jehovah god (the perfect god) didn't give that information.
it never was the "truth" in the first place..
I was told many years ago when I wondered that same question that we couldn't handle all the information in the bible at one time.So Jehovah just let them know a little at a time,there hearts were looking for truth..How would you explain it....
omg! the ONLY explanation is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2F4VcBmeo
jack nicholson is jehoober!!!
i would like to propose an ethical dilemma for those who believe in the divine inspiration of the bible.. in the following scenarios i am not asking you what you would have done but rather, what you hope you would have had the courage to do.. scenario 1. you are camped on the east side of the jordan waiting for orders to cross into the promised land.
moses is nearing the end of his life but he has some unfinished business to take care of before he hands over to joshua.
he announces that he has had an instruction from god to take revenge on the midianites before he dies.
i would have to answer, cofty, that those soldiers (if any of them were thinkers) would have to comply or leave in a real hurry (as they would know that they would be killed for not complying). for us to try to make a comparison today i dont think works. simply because we have choices that those men did not have. so it's not a fair comparison. at least imho.
so here is question (stemming from reading some of the off-topic replies): if god gave us life, then chose to pretty much abandon us and leave us to our own devices, then gave us this controversial book (that doesnt really definitively answer anyone's questions) to help us along, then what right does he have to expect anything of us? seems like a classic setting-up-for-failure scenario to me. but that is just my opinion.
yes, that's right, they really do not like people being able to read that book so they wanted links to it removed (it appears they have also been going after the hosts of the content itself as well).. unfortunately, i had to removed the links (which were dead anyway when i checked) and i'd ask that people don't re-post them (sorry).
i'm sure there are lots of alternative ways for those with the information to get it to those who need it.. here are the discussions on the book:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/200524/1/ks10-chapter-one-discussion.
wow this is still going on? *grabs popcorn ...
@djeggnogg: dude, you write way too much. if this where the craptastic moan-ass-tree skool, you'd be dinged for not getting to the point ... and going waaaaay overtime ... bullet points please ... i might actually make it through one of your posts if you were to summarize ... know what TL;DR means?
back on topic .. i think what amazes me the most is that the gibbering booty thinks they can come up with some publication, surround it with an aura of mystery, and then expect it to *NOT* be circulated ... wow, really? i mean, REALLY? oh well, it's their m.o. must be nice to live in the spiritual paradise ... errrrrrr ... dark ages
what do you suppose would happen if hundreds of thousands of people decided to download and distribute it at the same time? there might be a few lawsuits but so much attention would be drawn to it, do you think they'd pursue the matter? by that point, i would imagine the media would get involved ...
i had the misery recently of attending the sad.. the bethel speaker looked and sounded like the usual corporate businessman after your money.. during his main talk, he praised a recent bethel member who left his college (aka university) course early to pioneer and join bethel.. that followed experiences from window cleaners, unemployed, parents home-schooling (aka child abuse - it is a basic human right to be educated) their kids and those baptised as children (youngest was 10).. the brainwashed dubs applauded every ruined life paraded on the platform.. these bethel speakers have been around long enough to know exactly what they're doing - they are evil men, ruining peoples' lives, breaking up families and masquerading as holy men.. their time will come when they face god - too late for the many ruined by their filthy lies and false hopes.. sorry to sound bitter, but to my shame i had a part in this cult as an elder.
what part of my brain did i lose to not see through this rubbish?.
better late then never though.
what burns me up about home-schooling is the quality of the education that is available. while the material might be okay, the parents that have to deliver that material are questionable at best. teaching is a skill, one that has a scientific method behind it. that's why teachers have to go to college for awhile - to learn how to teach.
sorry but window washers that attend the craptastic moan-ass-tree skool are NOT teachers, do NOT learn pedagogy or any other teaching skill, and are NOT qualified to give their children the state-mandated education. they are fully qualified at ruining people's lives, however.
just my two pence
during my "intervention" the other night, an interesting thing was brought up that i remember hearing all through my life.
i think even the wt has commented on it a time or two.. the girl i was talking to said, "can you just imagine what this world would be like if it was run by jehovah's witnesses?!?
" she was saying this so as to prove her point that jehovah's witnesses have love and would never go to war nor break the law.
speaking of orwellian ... "Animal Farm" also comes to mind ... especially the part about they were freed from tyranny ... and then the pigs taking over ... i'm sure they were of a separate class .. all "classes" are equal but some "classes" are more equal than others ...
actually, i dont think the WT could ever take over the world. there's only so much dumb to go around .. and the world is a big place. To quote Douglas Adams .. the gibbering Body would be "the jerks who were first against the wall when the revolution came" ...
now that the grand boasting sessions are well under way, now is a good time to discuss what they are restricting on supplies there.
the "one towel" rule is quite famous by now.
however, i have heard scattered reports that they are rationing things like toilet paper as well.
absolutely disgusting
now that the grand boasting sessions are well under way, now is a good time to discuss what they are restricting on supplies there.
the "one towel" rule is quite famous by now.
however, i have heard scattered reports that they are rationing things like toilet paper as well.
*sneer*
only "weak" witnesses ever get up and leave their seats anyways ... if you have to go to the bathroom, clearly you should be shunned
"new light" is what the bethel proctologists find when conducting their examinations of the GB ... "oooo lookie .. found something in there .. must be new light!"
how many times have you heard that before, whether in or out?
in the past, i truly believed that.
if i were to leave the "truth", where else would i go?.
where else would we go? that's simple .. how bout down to the pub?
