Posts by garyneal

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JW's DO celebrate Xmas!

by PrincessCynic in

i'm finding it really funny how many witnesses celebrate christmas without actually 'celebrating christmas'.

i'm just looking at facebook and seeing how many got together with family on christmas day or boxing day and had a big roast dinner, often with turkey, ate too much, drank too much, played some board games etc.

then a few days later i'm seeing photos from all their 'family present days' where the kids get a ton of gifts to open.

garyneal

My wife would just say, "They are just getting together because it is the one day they have off, so why not take advantage."

Regarding the "yearly gift" thing, she just tries not to do it saying, "...it's like getting as close to the fire as possible..." kind of thing. She tries very hard to an extent but does not kmow other witnesses well enough to see their hypocrisy. Also she is obsessed with the idea of taking trips, a Jehovah's Witness trait that appears to be a mechanism to compensate for all those enforced rigid rules of their's.

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Christmas, Saturnalia, Winter Solstice, Winter Hellos Card List??

by blondie in

jw
friends

i will collect names and addresses from whoever wants to participate, just pm me.

only 21 days until christmas and some cards may have to go overseas.. so i'll make a 2 week deadline...december 18. i will send the names and addresses to you by pm on december 11 and then on the 18.. blondie.

garyneal

Happy Holidays to everyone. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

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Fred Franz talk before Gilead explaining why there was NO 1st Century GB

by BU2B in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-vymdlw83c.

garyneal

Marked

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Another problem for JW apologists

by Jeffro in

the 2013 edition of the new world translation renders 2 kings 17:1 as:.

in the 12th year of king ahaz of judah, hoshea the son of elah became king over israel in samaria; he ruled for nine years.. this is in fact a better rendering than the previous nwt, which stated:.

in the twelfth year of ahaz the king of judah, hoshea the son of elah became king in samaria over israel for nine years.. despite their improved rendering, the watch tower society still claims that hoshea's reign 'really' began in 758 bce, but that it was 'established' in the 12th year of ahaz.

garyneal

In the end, I find the Watchtower's defense of 607 bce laughable since it is obvious that it is promoted to support 1914. That year is becoming more irrelevant with each passing year.

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Went to church for the first time in a long long time.

by Crazyguy in

well its been since i was around 5 years young that i last went to church.

so today i went to a church of a friend and it was very nice.

they sang some songs with a band, good songs unlike jw's.

garyneal

What is the Mormon take on those worldly people, Cold Steel?

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Presents at grandmas, why jehovah hates it etc

by DS211 in

well we just got back from grandmas and the girls my wife and i all got presents.

my daughter was ripping through them like a madgirl and automatically my wife is like "shes being greedy"....i stood and said "no shes excited she never gets wrapped presents".

she agreed.

garyneal

There was a time when I seriously considered becoming a Jehovah's Witness and I asked my mother how she would feel if I were to do so. Knowing that it would mean that I would not be spending Christmases with them, I was concerned how that would affect my relationship with them. She said she would miss having us for the holidays but she would be okay with it. She said that she has cousins who are witnesses so she was familiar with it somewhat. It was reassuring to know that she would not be upset about it and would still accept it and me.

I knew before I decided to "take that plunge," I needed to make sure this really was the one true religion. Well, needless to say, I never became a witness.

How anyone can get roped in the religion giving all the information that is out there is beyond me.

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I have JUST become a GREAT GRANNY Of Twins.

by mouthy in

jw
friends

henry 51bs 12 oz,eve 51bs 14 oz...phil my grnason by marriage just called.. ashley the new mum) my granddaughter who herself was a twin,from my melanie who died when she was 42(cancer).

they are doing well born by ceaserian at 2.40p.m today!!!!!

!.

garyneal

Congratulations Granny Grace.

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oh dear I think I messed up and pushed too hard

by Frazzled UBM in

reading all the posts on the wt study on higher education and careers really fired me up yesterday.

i have 2 undergraduate and 2 postgraduate degerees and a career as a result which allows me to provide well for my jw wife and son.

i was already unhappy because after 5 or 6 weeks of not going and appearing to be making progress she went back on sunday for the second sunday in a row and as usual was away all day.

garyneal

I think I will need to take a break from reading the posts here because when I read the idiotic stuff the organisation does it makes me so frustrated that I can't get through to her. I am bereft.

I can totally relate as the same thing use to happen to me. I would read crazy things here and get all frustrated knowing that my wife is in the middle of it.

You are pushing too hard but it is easy to see how it can happen as it has happened to me several times in the past four years. As others have said, unless you know why she is a witness it will be hard to get her to choose to leave the religion. I can relate myself as I have found it difficult to reconcile my emotional reasons for wanting to remain a Christian and my logical reasoning that ultimately tells me that there are a lot flaws in the belief system (some of them potentially damaging). You may not have the benefit of this kind of empathy for your wife but even if she sees the flaws in her religion, she may still have a hard time leaving it.

My wife, for example, does see certain flaws but remains steadfast because she does not see any other religion or group offering her what the witnesses offer. She also has strong family ties to the religion, most noteably, her religious and devout mom who she does not want to dissappoint. I think she has lost herself in the demands of others and says that she is now "doing new things" by trying to assert herself. Sadly, however, she still does not want to offend the witnesses too much.

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Good News! Electricity to go WIRELESS!

by abiather in

jw
friends

the days of wires powering electronic devices could soon be at an end, with the development of a new system that will allow laptops, mobile phones and televisions to be left unplugged in the home while being recharged.

the new technology exploits a recent breakthrough in physics, according to the us company witricity.

it has shown that it can send electricity wirelessly through the air and can switch on a light bulb or keep a computer running.

garyneal

My thoughts exactly Blondie. This reminds me of the Tesla Tower project.

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Do you look like the apostate they warned you about?

by Angus Beef in

after waking up and wanting to get out of this nightmare, the word apostate is really bothering me.

if i quitely become inactive, fade away will i just be looked at as "always weak".

i want to scream out how big a fool i was.. and now telling my poor young daughter how wrong i was to bring her up as a jw.

garyneal

According to my wife, I am an apostate simply by associating with you all. However, I have never been a Jehovah's Witness.

So let's see, does that make Jehovah's Witnesses apostate Baptists or apostate Catholics if anyone in their rank and file were former Baptists or Catholics?

As Simon said, it is just a word. A word that they load the meaning of to scare and control people.