Posts by littlebird

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If Christ was Divine, How Could He Have Been Tempted?

by leavingwt in

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how did satan tempt a person who has no wrong desires?.

littlebird

Based on these scriptures, I believe he was human. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOppppppppppppps, I meant that he was human on earth.

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If Christ was Divine, How Could He Have Been Tempted?

by leavingwt in

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how did satan tempt a person who has no wrong desires?.

littlebird

Wow! lots of pages and Im sure Ive missed some valuable opinions, but anyway, here's mine, of which, Im not dogmatic about. I believe he made himself human as phil. says.

Philippians 2:6-8 (New International Version)

6 Who, being in very nature [a] God,
did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
7 but made himself nothing,
taking the very nature [b] of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
and became obedient to death—
even death on a cross!

(As leaving mentioned.)

Hebrews 2:17

17 Therefore he had to be made like his brothers in every respect, so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the service of God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people.

Based on these scriptures, I believe he was human. During his temptation when satan tells jesus to throw himself down, satan reminds jesus that that God , the father, wont allow jesus foot to strike against a stone, but would send angels to lift him up. If jesus had his godly powers on earth, he wouldnt need the angels help.

I believe he was able to perform miracles, because, God the father, granted him those gifts, as the holy spirit did for the believers at pentecost. Just my theory.

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Do you consider yourself to be quiet or outgoing?

by mrsjones5 in

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something someone said on one of the popularity topics got me to wondering who on the board is quiet and who are the outgoing ones in real life.

i'm a quiet person in real life, takes me a while to warm up to folks that i just meet, but if i really like a person my rarely used gift of gab comes out.. how about ya'll?.

littlebird

Im learning to be more & more outgoing each day, since Im learning to remove the old personality, of jw boringdom, to my new found personality!

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Hi!! New Here and need to express some feelings

by Knb1983 in

i'm so glad i happened to stumble across this website cause i really need to express what i've been holding inside for quite some time.

i'm 27 and was born and raised in the "truth".

i'm married and my husband was also raised as a jw, been married for almost 7 years and have two kids who have just started kindergarten and preschool.

littlebird

Welcome knb,

The only real regrets I have in life is raising my 2 sons as jws, the pain it eventually caused, I will always live with.

With regard to the holidays, this is what I go by:

Romans 14:5-12 (New International Version)

5 One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone. 8 If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.

9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. 10 You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat. 11 It is written:
" 'As surely as I live,' says the Lord,
'every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will confess to God.' " [a] 12 So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God.

Let your children enjoy their childhood.

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"This system is soo bad! Its so awfull!"

by highdose in

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the above is something i often heard jw's say in one way or another, but they could never fully eleabourate.. so i propose a debate: is the world "bad and "soo awfull"?

as the jw's would have you belive?.

littlebird

My husband says this stuff daily. My response, from a christian perspective, is "if you are a follower of Christ, who cares when it happens?"

I think its ok to watch for signs around the world, but why be obsessed? You still have to work, eat, sleep, etc. You have to get up everday, so you may as well be happy about it. Not everything is horrible, look at the good things.

The media is not objective journalism anymore. Sensationalism sells, journalism is a competive market like any other business. Extremeism is on the rise, I know from having owned barbershops, people say whatever is on their minds there. The media is fueling this, in my opinion. I do believe when we hear this sort of talk we need to try to turn things in a reasonable direction, or our country will be headed in a dangerous state.

So yes, there is bad, but there is good, so be "balanced" as the jws used to say, (but they never really practiced)

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I didn't even know i WAS an apostate!

by GrandmaJones in

i am currently just sick with grief.

i can't believe this is happening to me.

all the jokes i've made about me never "falling out of the truth" and self confidence about my spirituality.

littlebird

I say dont rock the boat just yet. You just had your whole world turned upside down. Give yourself a chance to absorb it, then you will be in a clearer mind to decide how you want to proceed.

Welcome!

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'We only do what the BIBLE says' --- Separating the Bible from the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of NYC

by Joliette in

i'm in the dawn of my research, and the #1 thing that i am trying to do, is separate the bible from the watchtower and bible and track society.. me and my dad got into a dicussion, and he said that the witnesses are only doing what the bible says.

he said to read the bible (especially the new testament) and it would all come clear to me, why jehovah's witnesses are the truth.

i said 'then what about all of the misleading, and predictions that never came true?

littlebird

ding, are you speechless? Maybe Im blind, I cant see anything on your post.

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So...the bible doesnt say to follow the faithful and discreet slave...CORRECT?

by Joliette in

if i'm not mistaken, there is no bible verse to support following the 'faithful and discreet' slave?.

am i correct?

i know i have to research this, but to give me a jumpstart...?.

littlebird

Yes they did and to this day he is treated like he is disfellowshipped.

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So...the bible doesnt say to follow the faithful and discreet slave...CORRECT?

by Joliette in

if i'm not mistaken, there is no bible verse to support following the 'faithful and discreet' slave?.

am i correct?

i know i have to research this, but to give me a jumpstart...?.

littlebird

I believe it was in 2002.

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So...the bible doesnt say to follow the faithful and discreet slave...CORRECT?

by Joliette in

if i'm not mistaken, there is no bible verse to support following the 'faithful and discreet' slave?.

am i correct?

i know i have to research this, but to give me a jumpstart...?.

littlebird

We came home from a circuit assembly and found him with a cop, yeah, guy in his twenties and my son was about 17. We were in shock. We thought if we went to the elders they would be able to help us with him. Our son refused to talk to them, they kept trying to find him, at home, at work. He refused to return their calls, so they told us to kick him out before he destroyed our younger sons faith. It was the worst thing I ever did to my child. I will never get over it, the pain I caused him by following the "FDS"

I kept in contact with him, I bought him food, gave him money behind my husbands and the elders backs. I couldn't stop loving him, I couldnt shun him, I rented a small office behind a building for him to live in when this "cop" kicked him out. We are terrific friends now.

Its kinda hard to talk about.