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living in a bubble
by inbetween inlast weekend we were invited at a family of jw.. they are some decent people, reasonable, realistic, balanced, having good jobs and a house, certianly took care of their future pension, and will give their child a good education.. you can discuss with them many different topics, and they are not blind to mistakes of brothers or even the leaders.... however, they are dubs, both being raised in the "truth", they dont know anything else really..... we have quit a number of friends like that, being down to earth, not extreme, have a good life, and still "strong" in their faith.... the other day, we also did a congregation-trip, and while you find everywhere some selfrighteous puffed-up "pioneer", "wannabe-elders" or real"elders" or "elderettes", most of the folk was fine, no worry about anybody behaving badly, getting drunk or something like that.. i was thinking, it wouldnt be so bad to be a witness, if...... yes, its the "if" that makes one worry., the mind-control thing of the gb.. anybody going through similar thoughts ?.
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Raymond Franz
by inbetween inrecenty we had some contact with some jw.
after it was briefly mentioned, that am iii is no longer a gb member, one of them mentiuoned about raymond franz.
he called him a brother to fred frantz, who slowly slipped in some publications his own ideas, thats why he was removed, and some of his books discontinued.. it was just interesting, how badly informed some so called well informed witnesses are.....
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Faithful slave, new teaching
by inbetween inmost of us agree, that jw doctrine, even if you accept the bible as gods word, doenst add up.. just one detail:.
the new teaching about the fds is, that it was established, not in 1st century, but in 1914 (1919?
), and that jesus looked down on earth after his installment as king 1914 and choose the bible students as his organisation.. however, the new kingdom book mentioned in this weeks study, when russel and co startd to publish in newspapers from 1903 on, that jesus manouvered matters, in order to make it successful.. hm, he didnt even choose them yet as his people, but he already supported them ?.
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"lucky punch"
by inbetween inafter some research and study here on the net and elsewhere, i know, that the doctrine of blood and the treaching of 1914 are not based on the bible, maybe just loosely related,.
however why are they so much accepted by jw ?.
i think one reason is, because both teachings hit something apparantly right, somehow on accident.. i`ll explain:.
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Creation account in Genesis
by inbetween innew year, bible reading program starts again with genesis.. still being in, i have to "deal" with it somehow, but the first time reading the account with a free mind, this brought some thoughts:.
i remember, in some old creation or evolution book of the society, some scientist was qouted saying, that the order of creation in the genesis account is in line with science, that it could possibly not be of human source.. but when reading it myself, i thought, well it sounds kind of messed up.
for example, it claims, that the stars were made after even the plants were created:.
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dub sayings
by inbetween in"we can be glad to have such a great variety of spiritual food, just take a look at the nonsense in other churches".
"so many nice brothers, look forward to the new system, when we can all get to know them better".
"it was really a protection being raised in the truth".
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new brochure and the FDS
by inbetween insince last week jw all over the world study the new brochure "who are doing jehovahs will today ".
while my first curiosity was, how they will now explain the fds, there is nothing specific in this chapter.. however, in this weeks discussion, there is the following statemant found in lesson 3:.
the time came for jehovah to reveal the truth.
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another possible reason the the new teaching GB = faithful slave
by inbetween insitting yesterday through another mindnumbing meeting, when the experiences of the yearbokk was being discussed, i noticed another mention of governing body, written in capitals.. then it dawned on me, maybe one reason for changing the understanding of the slave class could be, that the term governing body is not mentioned in the bible, which could become a weak point, especially defending against "apostate" ideas and accusations.. basically shifting the name to fds would mean to have a scriptural support somehow.. i also remember, in my days as a full believer, i never doubted the fds doctrine, but i was kind of disturbed by not finding the term gb in the bible.. on the other hand, back then, gb was not mentioned that often in the literatur as it is today.. .
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interesting link, article on JW about Haiti relief
by inbetween inhttp://www.examiner.com/x-17373-phoenix-signs-of-the-times-examiner~y2010m1d26-helping-haiti-give-generously-but-wisely.
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wonderful poem
by inbetween infor all those still being in, and cannot leave for whatever reason or personal circumstances, i think, at least in my case, this poem really expresses how one might feel being trapped in the org.
it was always my favourite poem, maybe subconsciously relating to it even before my awakening to ttatt.. .
its originally in german, but i found also an english translation.