so funny, even here in Europe this term is known, usually used by sisters, who actually wanted to marry, but couldn't find a brother, who is "spirutully strong" without being a total nut, well, no wonder...
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Did You Ever Belong To The AAA Group? (Available After Armageddon)
by LoisLane looking for Superman inthat line is soooo old.
lol.
did anybody here, ever spout out those silly words?.
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Another Lie/Revisionist History in todays WT study!!
by BU2B ini caught yet another revisionist history deception in todays wt lesson.. .
here is a quote from paragraph 4 of the 2/15/13 study edition.
"decades before 1914, jehovah's worshippers declared to the nations that the end of "the appointed times of the nations" would come in that year and that the world would enter into an unequaled period of trouble.".
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Yesterday, I was even wondering, why they point out what the bible students did before 1914, since they don`t teach anymore, that before there was no FDS anyway. So no channel of God, how then did Russel come up with the 1914 prediction ?
By bible reading alone ? ridicolous....
just shows even more, how this new teaching of the FDS does not fit in at all in their own theology.
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Is the Watchtower shy about repeating their new "generation" teaching?
by slimboyfat inas i recall in the 1980s talks and watchtower literature, magazines and books were always talking about the "generation" teaching and how it proved armageddon was going to come any day now.. but am i correct in thinking they have only actually mentioned the new "overlapping generations" teaching once or twice in the literature?
why are they so shy about talking about their great new interpretation?
it's almost enough to make you suspect they are a embarrassed about it.. mention it once or twice, don't dwell on it, hope everyone just accepts it, and don't bring it up again.
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interesting idea, do you think with changing of the generation teaching, and as example of overlapping they used good old Freddie, who was also by the new definition a FDS member, they prepared the way for the new FDS doctrine ?
So jesus, speaking about the generation and the FDS, he meant the same bunch of guys preparing spiritual food at headquarters ?
So the GB 2.0 are the extension cord before this system goes unplugged ?
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NEW LIGHT: The WT Leadership has been wrong about their own identity for the last 93 years!
by Oubliette inso by now, we all know about the "new light" concerning the "faithful and discreet slave" class being the governing body and just the governing body.
other "anointed ones" need not apply.
you've been summarily kicked to the curb.
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Oubliette, thanks for your thread, i was yesterday thinking about starting one about the same problem,
it is a biggie, they did not know about their identity, they did also not know what exactly jesus appointed them for (app over belongings now in future !), so how can they say, they know what jesus / jehovah told them to write, say, produce in the last 93 years ?
It actually would be easy to dismiss all this as mere human fantasy, then again, its like the proverbial elephant, only us apostates see it....
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new light on FDS and 1914
by inbetween inthe society claims now, that before 1914/1919 there was no fds, this means also, russel was not part of it, he was not the channel from god.. then the calculation for 1914, which russel made popular and promoted, was done in a time, when god revealed actually nothing, does this prepare the way to finally dump 1914 chronology ?
approaching the 100 year anniversary for christs supposed rulership, it becomes anyway more and more ridicolous.. i know, some argue 1914 is essential for their being chosen 1919, but now they say, they are somehow not appointed over the belongings yet, so also this aspect looses significance.
and the inspection of the temple can begin anytime anyway, it was convinient to link it to 1914 but i think its not really necessary.
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yes, a fade seems reasonable, more emphasis on jesus predictions of last days, less on chronology.
They moved this shaky calculation in the bible teach book towards the appendix, and mostly it was not really discussed with future converts, pubs mostlky shyed away anyway, and most of them cant explain it without help.
If it fades away, everybody will be happy,
Only thing, last years came two articles defending 607, which again contradicts the idea of getting rid of 1914, well, time will show...
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new light on FDS and 1914
by inbetween inthe society claims now, that before 1914/1919 there was no fds, this means also, russel was not part of it, he was not the channel from god.. then the calculation for 1914, which russel made popular and promoted, was done in a time, when god revealed actually nothing, does this prepare the way to finally dump 1914 chronology ?
approaching the 100 year anniversary for christs supposed rulership, it becomes anyway more and more ridicolous.. i know, some argue 1914 is essential for their being chosen 1919, but now they say, they are somehow not appointed over the belongings yet, so also this aspect looses significance.
and the inspection of the temple can begin anytime anyway, it was convinient to link it to 1914 but i think its not really necessary.
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The society claims now, that before 1914/1919 there was no FDS, this means also, Russel was not part of it, he was not the channel from God.
Then the calculation for 1914, which Russel made popular and promoted, was done in a time, when God revealed actually nothing, does this prepare the way to finally dump 1914 chronology ? Approaching the 100 year anniversary for christs supposed rulership, it becomes anyway more and more ridicolous.
I know, some argue 1914 is essential for their being chosen 1919, but now they say, they are somehow not appointed over the belongings yet, so also this aspect looses significance. And the inspection of the temple can begin anytime anyway, it was convinient to link it to 1914 but I think its not really necessary. They can twist it however they want, jesus comes 1 or two times, does what, all this they can make up how they like it.
What do you think ?
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Differences Between JWs in the US and Europe
by BU2B inthere are many cultural differences between the general population of the us and europe, what about jws?
i have heard about such things as beards being allowed, movies that a jw cant watch in the us or would be frowned upon watching being ok, same with tv shows, and even the way they dress in public.
seems more laid back over there if this is true.. any truth to this?
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happen to know several witnesses from the US, while it still depends on the local congregation, in general, it seems in the US all is more for rules and regulations than here in Europe.
Funny though, that even in Europe, the more north you go, the more relaxed things seem to be...
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Elders- Have any of You faded Because of participating in a JC where the Arguments from the accused made sense to you?
by truthlover ini know the question is long, but it has occured to me that there are a lot of newbies here but before that, many ex elders, some co and do's that are no longer jw's.... did the publishers comments at a jc about the misconceptions,dates, and lack of holy spirit, etc.
make sense to you and did you start thinking about the failed prophecies, fudging the "new light" etc.
which caused you to slowly fade away.. .
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oups, sorry just realized the typos, writing too fast while working
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Elders- Have any of You faded Because of participating in a JC where the Arguments from the accused made sense to you?
by truthlover ini know the question is long, but it has occured to me that there are a lot of newbies here but before that, many ex elders, some co and do's that are no longer jw's.... did the publishers comments at a jc about the misconceptions,dates, and lack of holy spirit, etc.
make sense to you and did you start thinking about the failed prophecies, fudging the "new light" etc.
which caused you to slowly fade away.. .
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I remember my first JC, I was more nervous than the poor sister, she was accused of adultery, her husband already forgave her, and i have to say, the presiding elder of the JC was quite compassionate and did not go into details. However, I still felt weird, three brothers judging over one sister...
Then I had a couple of other porneia cases, where the bros/sis confessed and more or less wanted to establish their relationship to jehovah. in those cases the JC was more for comforting than judging them.
However, in one of the elder school I attended the title of a program part was about how to judge with justice, and I thought by myself, that Jesus said, we should not judge. i hateed elder schools anyway, and this part in particular.
Then I had two different cases, which were steps to my waking up ( I needed more steps, since I was deep asleep ;-)
One was my first case, that ended in disfellowshipping. there was really no room for a decision otherwise, since the sister lived togther with someone, and had no intnetion to break up her relationship. However, I felt really bad afterwards for a long time, thinking, who am I to make such a decision...
The other case involved a young brother, babtized as a a child, and becomeing a teen, he kind off faded form the meetings, and started his own life. Actually the elders would have not pressured him, but his parents, uber-witnesses, wanted clearance and turned him in. He refused to attend a meeting, but he was kind of pressured to write a DA-letter, which results in a formal JC. In this situation I refused to be even part of this formal JC out of conscietous reasons, because he was too young when he was babtized. My fellow eldersa accepted my stance, however, i doubt they really understood, what i meant. They perhaps thought, i was handicapped, because I was close to this young brother, which was true to some extent, but this was nt the reason of my refusal.
All this expereince in time showed me, there is something wrong with the whole concept, but I didnt know what. Only information on the internet lifted the veil completely.
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Who plays video games?!!
by DATA-DOG inany gamers out there?
i love a good game.
to me a great game is like a great book!
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Love games, like skyrim, gothic, mass effect, drago age, but also strategy like total war series...
play on PC and PS3
gives me soo much more than simply watching TV...