You took such flak from this board when you first suggested this, I-L-TTATT. We're a skeptical bunch. Thanks for following up!
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/284566/1/Chile-and-the-flag-September-18
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96Chile and the flag: It's true!! Undeniable evidence!!
by ILoveTTATT injoe, sorry, you'll have to eat some humble pie.. .
thank you so much for the poster on extj.com who sent these pics!!
can't have been better!!.
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Chile and the flag September 18
by ILoveTTATT ini have asked the people who are following my fb page and who live in chile to take lots of pictures and even videos if they can of the chilean flag in the kingdom halls... can't wait for when the pictures start rolling in!!.
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Update?
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Married to jws, give me stength
by marriedtoajw inmy 23 year old son gave his first talk last year.
he met a catholic girl shortly after that, his girlfriend now, and got a part time job and stopped going to meetings.
hasn't been to one in almost a year.
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Kudos marriedtoajw for wading back in to the discussion. We're never short of opinions here, LOL.
I don't think you can force your wife to change. She's too adept at avoiding work. So you are left with all the things you can do to make the best life for yourself. I'd like to see you off that insane work schedule. I'd like to see your son be accountable to a third party (not you!) to learn responsibility. Let's see if he will entertain quitting his job when he has bills to pay! I'd like to see you empowered in new ways to speak up and be respected by your family (hence the counselling advice).
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Powerful photo
by zakharijah inhi,.
i just stumbled upon this photo on facebook (pic by david j. m. coleman), and as they say, a picture is worth a thousand words.... .
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It's not easy goving money to beggers on the street, it really is a question of caution. - NH&H
I hear you, NH&H, but I do think there are ways to help. I have got involved in a project like the San Francisco Homeless Connect.
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Project-Homeless-Connect-turns-5-in-S-F-3212797.php
In a convention atmosphere, the homeless are invited to find the resources they need in a dignified environment.
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Married to jws, give me stength
by marriedtoajw inmy 23 year old son gave his first talk last year.
he met a catholic girl shortly after that, his girlfriend now, and got a part time job and stopped going to meetings.
hasn't been to one in almost a year.
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jgnat
Jim Carrey is an example of a resilient young man who helped his family work their way out of poverty. It's about time the tough issues you are facing become a family problem.
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Married to jws, give me stength
by marriedtoajw inmy 23 year old son gave his first talk last year.
he met a catholic girl shortly after that, his girlfriend now, and got a part time job and stopped going to meetings.
hasn't been to one in almost a year.
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jgnat
Your contribution to this mess is constantly caving in. As long as your little family fails to feel the pain of the situation, there is no incentive for them to change. You have the power in the relationship, as you hold the purse strings. Exercise that power to get the relief you need.
Where in this equation did it become OK to give an immature young man, barely employed, his own cell phone, car, and dog? There's transit. If he can't care for the dog, he can give it away. There are pay as you go flip phones. If the boy wants to maintain the lifestyle to which he has become accustomed, he can pay for it. Twelve hour days if necessary.
I think you need to carve out some funds to get some personal counselling.
You don't mention what state you are in but there are debt restructuring services that also provide courses. Such courses should be mandatory for your wife to attend.
There should be a clothing, transportation, and food budget. No joint bank accounts. When the budget is gone, it's gone. You may go to a cash system where the available funds are divvied in to envelopes.
I understand that your personality type doesn't want to be despised. But your family holds you in contempt anyhow. By standing your ground, you have the best chance at least to be respected. Or prevent an early grave from working yourself in to the ground.
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Where are the electric hovercars?
But I bet cell phones and hip replacements would blow them away. I think a resurrected citizen from 1975 would think they are in paradise.
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Topics Ive Been Pondering On
by JWINQUESTION inthis is my first post on here so bear with me.
currently i am still an active jw with serious questions about the jw org.
i was hesitant signing up but really need as much input from the people on this forum to get a clear understanding on things.
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I think there's a scripture for this, JWinQuestion. Paul addressed the Corinthians on the matter of eating meat as the congregation was divided on the matter. The WTS has confused these scriptures further, but I hope a plain reading will help you.
1 Corinthians 8:4-8 and 1 Corinthians 10:23-32.
In essence whatever you do, do for the greater good, according to your own conscience. And don't fuss over what your neighbour is doing.
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What is a morally upright life?
by jgnat inis it relative, or do all human societies and cultures hold at least some things to be good?.
i don't think right and true is "universal" other than what is right and true for people.
a dolphin or a praying mantis may have alien perceptions of what is "good".
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Apognophos, I hear what you are saying. Enzo's challenge has me reading wider and I've been thinking about our highly adaptive natures and how we develop personas to integrate with whatever group we happen to be part of. Lifton speaks of the people living and working in the highly abusive Nazi war camps and the ability of a prison guard for instance to commit all sorts of atrocities during the day, then going home and by all appearances living as a peacable neighbour and loving husband. It's like he had two personas adapted to each environment.
Hassan of course speaks of the cultic personality and the natural personality. But perhaps we build as many personalities as we need to fit in.
I did a lot of highway driving this weekend and I noticed that the jostling for position quickly settles to a communal agreement on the speed limit, regardless of what the signage says. Those who cannot fit in either speed ahead or drop behind, finding their own norm. We stay generally within the limits of what we are supposed to, but our fellow drivers have a great deal more influence even than the law.
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What is a morally upright life?
by jgnat inis it relative, or do all human societies and cultures hold at least some things to be good?.
i don't think right and true is "universal" other than what is right and true for people.
a dolphin or a praying mantis may have alien perceptions of what is "good".
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Xanthippe, you are expressing many of the thoughts I had when I explored sanctity.
I agree that guilt can be very destructive. Perhaps it is the flip side of sanctity. Many of our best features if taken too far can end up being destructive. Compare for instance, a nurturing love of a parent compared to that of a narcicisst that demands attention. It's love twisted. So a small amount of guilt might be a useful deterrent but excessive guilt can spiral us in to dysfunctional behavior.