Satanus-Ok, so I am an ANTISEMTIC-APOSTATE WHORE LIVING IN BABALYON- yeah I can live with that Iam now very used to being persecuted by reaveled religions for my simple beliefs! Iam unconvertable- thou shall not be anyones sheep or scapegoat!
Lillith26
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Is it ok to malign another's faith?
by bluecanary ini've seen this come up on multiple threads.
rather than derail them all, i'd like to talk about it here.. jws seem to feel that it is a form of persecution for anyone to question, doubt or speak negatively of their beliefs or organization.
yet, they are taught to do this to other religions.
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just a few questions I don't want to ask directly hell
by Janey214 inhello - first may i apologise for capital letters my keyboard has gone screwy.
for the last several months i have been having meetings with two really nice women from the jw organisation.
i don't want to offend anyone by asking these questions i am simply trying to better understand how the watchtower came about without listening to too much anti stuff.
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Lillith26
Hello Jane
Welcome to the board!
Iam not classed as an apostate or an ex-JW... I was just like you 2yrs ago (by this I mean I began a study with a really nice ladyJW), I have since left my studies and any association with the WT org (not the people). Just like most others on here, I can not stress enough the point that you really need to know what your getting yourself into, at first they will seem very convincing and for someone who has little bible knowledge it will be hard to find error in what your being taught by the WTBTS at first. You have come to the right place for information (use the search on here to bring up threads relating to your questions and please concider even the anti stuff).
One thing you will not be taught by a JW is that suposed apostates have nothing to gain by telling you anti stuff- these are people who have been hurt by this cult mentally, emotionally, physically and many still have relatives that because of the JW shunning policies will not speak to them. Some are people who want to leave but because of close family and friends, they stay in order to not loose these relationships that are being controlled by the WTBTS. It was easy for me to leave- I had no close family or friends in at the time and stood to loose nothing by leaving, I was just a 'study' and they were not too concerned by my 'lack of faith in the faithfull slave'. I joined this forum after leaving, so some of my earlier posts were VERY ANTI LOL- but I after sticking around and reading and learning I now have a much better understanding of the cult of Jehovah's Witnesses- the anger is almost fully gone for me.
The information I first found while doing a history check on CTRussel was in the online wikipedia- but there is some really informative information on him and the original members here on JWN (check in the best of topics section on the board). Like I said earlier- people now classed by the WTBTS as apostates are real people who have absolutly nothing to gain by telling you information about this cult- most speak anti to people concidering joining out of love not hate. The best cure is prevention!
Dont be worried about asking them questions, (they came to question you!), but at the same time ask your self the hard questions- what do you believe? I hope you will find the answers are in your heart- not in a book published by the organisation trying to convert you.
Take care and question everything.
Lillith
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Is it ok to malign another's faith?
by bluecanary ini've seen this come up on multiple threads.
rather than derail them all, i'd like to talk about it here.. jws seem to feel that it is a form of persecution for anyone to question, doubt or speak negatively of their beliefs or organization.
yet, they are taught to do this to other religions.
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Lillith26
I agree with the WT statement that it is not religious persecution to say and point out that it is false- but only if that religion is being forsed upon you!
The very last religious question I asked my study mentor before I left was "How do you feel when you tell someone that what they have believed their whole life is a lie? wouldn't you want to be damn sure before you make the statement that will change their entire life?
I have no inclination to try and convert an Atheist- they only differ from me as a Deist in one way, I believe in higherpower and they dont- it is the revealed religions (Judasim, Islam, Christianity) that go out of their way to convert/control the mass population that are commiting the real 'religious persecution' to those who need more than faith to believe, to those who dont have enough proof to believe and even amoung themselves.
I dont know about everyone else but I will never say Iam 100% a true believer and know 100% that I have the truth, but Iam 100% certain that I have made the right choice for myself by leaving revealed religion in the trash were it belongs!
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Ok- I have no idea how to post the link straight to it, but if you look in the "best of wts Hitler and the Holocaust" on JWN you will find more info then what was on the DVD, Hope this helps...
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I did watch a few of them... the last one I watched may have worked if it wasn't the "JW's Stand Firm" DVD about the war in Germany... It's sick how they twisted the facts to suit their own agenda! To me that was very wronge!!!
This DVD may be the one to get them on (for NOT being the truth and flatout LYING about their real history).... May I sugest you do a search on the purple triangle on JWN- Iam certain this has been a thread topic before and more knowledgeble exJW's will have no doubt pointed out all the faults in this DVD for you to use as ammo!
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If You Could Go Back In Time ...
by Big Tex inassuming you could go back in time, and knowing what you know now, is there anything the 2009 you could say to that person you were while you were one of jehovah's witnesses, that would have gotten you out earlier, or easier?.
in other words, have you learned anything now, or while you were exiting, that would have made a difference to you while you were a witness?
and would it make any difference?
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Lillith26
I dont want to go back now and slap myself over the head and say the hell are you thinking!, This might sound crazy- but I actually learned alot of usefull things during my study with JW's (i did learn alot crap too- but we live and learn). I did the whole "make sure of all things first" and thats why I stopped my study before being baptised, I was a good bible student... but sadly good bible students dont make christians!
Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery and today is a gift, that is why they call it the present- (From the Turtle in the movie KungFu Panda)
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Hey...no more lurking...
by pmgirl inhey,.
this is my first post on this forum after months of reading and lurking on here.
i'm glad to be able to say that my husband and i finally sent our letter saying we want out and are wait to hear back for a potential jc meeting--that we won't be attending.. we had so many doubts it was impossible for us to continue living the lie.
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Welcome pmgirl
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PRIVATE PROPERTY! KEEP OUT!
by highdose inhow many times have we all seen that sign in the minstry?
also " no salesman" , " no harkers" etc.
in my congo it was the policy to ignore these completly, the poor people who just wanted to be left alone never had a chance.. i on the otherhand used to use it as an exhuse to fast forward on to the next house and finish up the ministry quicker.... what was your experiance?.
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Brinjen- I miss John Laws- he was really good! never heard the warnings personally but it does sound like something he would do! lol
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Do you pray these days?
by highdose ini was wondering if anyone here prays anymore?
what do you call god?
what role do you think god plays in your life?
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Lillith26
Iam a Deist- i believe in a higher power that i simply refere to as natures god or the creator. I do not pray anymore, but at least once I day someone or something will remind me of how fortunate Iam to have the life circumstances I do and I simply say thankyou.
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PRIVATE PROPERTY! KEEP OUT!
by highdose inhow many times have we all seen that sign in the minstry?
also " no salesman" , " no harkers" etc.
in my congo it was the policy to ignore these completly, the poor people who just wanted to be left alone never had a chance.. i on the otherhand used to use it as an exhuse to fast forward on to the next house and finish up the ministry quicker.... what was your experiance?.
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Lillith26
I have the 'Beware of Gaurd Dog' sign on our front gate now- we live out on a farm that is classed as private property, so if my dog eats them, it's their own fault! even though my dog would more likely lick them to death- she is big and scary looking
Personally I never made it to the 'door to door' stage in my studies. TGFT