Lillith26

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  To the "Believers" - A Sincere Question...

  by AGuest in

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  to: "non-believers" (i am speaking to the "adult" among you as there are some who simply won't be able to resist... and you know who you are), i would like to ask that you please refrain from commenting, if you would be so kind.

  if possible, it would be greatly appreciated if you would hold your comments for another thread, please.

  thank you... and may you have peace!.

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  I call that 'inner voice' intuition- it's my voice that I hear... as though I am speaking to myself, in a way that I will understand myself... sometimes reading, listening to music or looking at a picture will get that inner voice going and I will have personal revelations about anything and everything- But that is just me, talking to me, learning for myself, as you said, the Holy Spirit is a PERSON not a feeling/emotion/intuition...

  My 'intuition' tells me, that this 'inner voice' is not what Shelby was talking about when it comes to HEARING the WORD or the Holy Spirit SPEAKING to you.... to talk to some else would imply that their are TWO distinct VOICES taking part of the CONVERSATION... one yours and the other... well I'm sure you get my point now
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  To the "Believers" - A Sincere Question...

  by AGuest in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  to: "non-believers" (i am speaking to the "adult" among you as there are some who simply won't be able to resist... and you know who you are), i would like to ask that you please refrain from commenting, if you would be so kind.

  if possible, it would be greatly appreciated if you would hold your comments for another thread, please.

  thank you... and may you have peace!.

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  It is the same today

  It might be worth noting that the Holy Spirit is a person, not a thing.

  Stephen, it may be worth noting that , when Shelby said "it is the same today", it was the means of communicating not 'who' was communicating.....

  There was no bible for Noah to read, he would have had "communication" with the holy spirit, heard the voice, then placed faith.........

  It does not matter which 'version' is read BTW.... you do NOT need to read words written by man, if the WORD is TALKING to you.........

  I personally have not heard the word or been spoken too- but I have not asked yet..... have you? asked?
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  Jehovah's Witnesses---A Cult or Not?

  by minimus in

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  when i first got on this site, i would bristle at the thought that i ever belonged to a cult.. do you believe that witnesses are truly "cultists"?.

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  Good for you MrsJones- I wouldn't put that in my mouth either... you dont know where is been.... Yuk! LOL
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  Jehovah's Witnesses---A Cult or Not?

  by minimus in

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  when i first got on this site, i would bristle at the thought that i ever belonged to a cult.. do you believe that witnesses are truly "cultists"?.

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  SOM.....

  The religion that you are obviously a member of fits all the criteria you have cut and pasted..... this explains your cult perfectly....

  1. a particular system of religious worship, esp. with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
  2. an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, esp. as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.
  3. the object of such devotion.
  4. a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
  5. Sociology. a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.
  6. a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader.
  7. the members of such a religion or sect.
  8. any system for treating human sickness that originated by a person usually claiming to have sole insight into the nature of disease, and that employs methods regarded as unorthodox or unscientific.

  you have a book that explains your ceremonies and rites, that also contains ideology that is sure to keep you living outside of 'conventional' society.......

  All of your buildings used to host your cults ceremonies are indeed run by leaders... but I would NOT call most of these leaders 'charismatic'- most are so boring to listen too, that people have been know to fall asleep during a sermon......
  
  
  Did I mention your book contains false and or misleading information and radical/extreme claims?????? first sin explains all health problems and death???????????

  - I have no idea what these symbols are for.... but hey.... neither do you!

  Please do us all a huge favour and start your own thread- you've ruffled enough feathers on this one

  
  
  
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  Those Whose Faith is in the Bible as the Word of God..

  by AGuest in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  may you have peace!.

  i have been directed by the holy spirit to bring something to your attention and ask you with regard to it:.

  matthew 17:1-13 gives an account of the transfiguration of my lord, when he was seen with elijah and moses... which was witnessed by peter, james, and john.

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  Hello again Shelby- I dont believe any of the 'scriptures' to be inspired, I take only the advice that rings true for me, and heed only the messages that are of good benifet for myself and those around me...... I do this with most of what I read, listen too, watch- whether it's a song that speaks to my heart or a movie that I have seen that has 'changed' me for the better.... I draw inspiration and knowledge from many different sources... if there is perhaps a 'spirit' that is guiding this process, then I am unaware of their presence, but open to the possibility that there does exist outside of this physical realm a spiritual one, that science may never be able to prove exists.

  When I tell people that I am a deist of sorts, it is due to there being no other 'term' that best describes my beliefs... I proved to be a terrible jw convert as I was raised to see the beauty in grey, for me this is no black and white world at all. Culturally I am only 3 generations removed from my Indigenous Australian ancestors, and was raised to have a profound respect for my elders and their 'knowledge'... a culture that pre dates a legend born 2000 years ago in a land far from where I am now...

  I appreciate your honesty and thank you for sharing your thoughts and knowledge... I draw inspiration from you also.

  Lillith
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  Those Whose Faith is in the Bible as the Word of God..

  by AGuest in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  may you have peace!.

  i have been directed by the holy spirit to bring something to your attention and ask you with regard to it:.

  matthew 17:1-13 gives an account of the transfiguration of my lord, when he was seen with elijah and moses... which was witnessed by peter, james, and john.

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  Memory and perspective..... example- you and I go to see the same movie on the same day at the same time.... we are "moved" to write about what we saw that day, only 30+ years later.... you remember the date exactly, but i wrote a different day close to the right date as dates are less important to my "view" of what we saw.... I remember all of the minor details about the movie and write those, while you simply stated the major events of the movie and left out the minor details that are less important to your "view" of what we both saw......

  On the surface it may appear to be two seperate stories that have similarities.... but they are the stories of the same event that were written by different writters, long after the event took place...... we all see through our own eyes- I am not you and you are not me, we may see the same thing differently and remember differently, even if we are moved to write for the same reason.......

  The movie we were "moved" to write about, would read very differently, if we told or asked others to write the story for us after verbaly exchanging the information with them about the events.............. even more so if the language had to be translated at the same time.

  Lillith

  On a personal note- great topic/thread/question SA, you really get me thinking, thank you
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  Man Vs. Woman---The Organization's View

  by minimus in

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  women in the "truth" are considered lower than men or even male children!

  for years, females couldn't give talks in the ministry school.

  now, interperters who are female must wear a head covering as if they were teaching, mot merely repeating for fear they might offend the angels!.

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  • God is apparently a MALE
  • God's first begotten was apparently MALE
  • The Angels' are all apparently MALE
  • The MALE is the HEAD
  • WOMEN must take orders from the above MALES apparently.

  Did I miss the bit that explains why women should be happy and content with this???? I'm not sexist! but the bible and the WTBTS apparently is!
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  Man Vs. Woman---The Organization's View

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  women in the "truth" are considered lower than men or even male children!

  for years, females couldn't give talks in the ministry school.

  now, interperters who are female must wear a head covering as if they were teaching, mot merely repeating for fear they might offend the angels!.

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  LOL at cantleave....

  "last turkey in the shop" look?

  Hello ATALAYA- a poster here gives penguins to newbies..... but I see the need to give you a better looking turkey!

  (I dont have any TROLL SMILEYS YET lol).
  
  
  
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  'Aussie Aussie Aussie.....'

  by wantstoleave in

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  ..........fill in the blanks .

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  (just giving a shout out to all the aussies on the board).

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  Hi sheila's & blokes.......... Aussie Aussie Aussie ... Oi Oi Oi
  
  
  
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  "Won without a word"

  by Beachwalker in

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  I think the usual advice for husbands from the WTBTS is to 'love your wives as your own bodies' but this is always 'overlooked or condoned' by the WTBTS..

  Abuse comes in many forms

  • Emotional
  • Mental
  • Physical
  • Sexual

  AND ABSOLUTLY NONE OF IT IS OK!

  There are just as many cases of men being abused by their wives as there is wives being abused by their husbands- sadly the women perpetrators are not noticed at large by society.... neither party should stay in an abusive relationship and the perpetrator of the abuse should be reported to the proper authorities- police, courts etc...... cause the WTBTS will not do anything about it- they are only concerned with making the outside of the cup look clean!