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  The Pope Tells Trump He's Not A Christian

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  this should be fun.

  building a wall is unchristian.

  i can't understand why the pope is getting involved in american politics.. poor donald..

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  LoveUni said: The Pope says Trump isn't Christian yet it was this very same Pope who said if people criticize religion they have to expect to get punched. That doesn't sound Christian to me either

  That's exactly what the Jay Dubyas would say.

  WTF is going on here?

  It is my understanding that 'turning the other cheek' is Christian, not retaliation. However, what I also know is that for every single person and every single 'Christian' religion, the term and definition of 'Christian' appears to be an ever changing and fluid one depending on circumstances. The ever shifting sands of religion/Christianity make me nauseous.
  
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  So Proud of Pops

  by brandnew in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok so a car pulls up to the house and 3 eldurrs from my dads congo come up.

  they come in and have thee nerve to ask me to step out so they can speak to pops!!!!

  this is the good part.....pops says...and i quote " whatever needs to be said..can be said in front of my son".

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  When I took over my Dad's finances over 5 years ago now, the money flowing from his wallet and bank accounts to Botchtower came to a screeching halt. They have received the sum total of jack shite from him ever since.They will never receive ANY more money from him... EVER!

  This is your legacy Bothctower. Keep sticking it to your people and they'll stick it to you.
  
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  The Pope Tells Trump He's Not A Christian

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this should be fun.

  building a wall is unchristian.

  i can't understand why the pope is getting involved in american politics.. poor donald..

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  The Pope says Trump isn't Christian yet it was this very same Pope who said if people criticize religion they have to expect to get punched. That doesn't sound Christian to me either.
  
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  Can any believer make a case for the superiority of faith over knowledge?

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i find it curious why so many here on this site, in the face of factual evidence for things such as evolution and the impossibility for anyone to make a coherent interpretation for the bible, would still prefer faith to knowledge?.

  can any believer attempt a defence of this position?.

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  "It's called Faith because it isn't Knowledge." - Christopher Hitchens

  Faith offers delusional comfort. Knowledge does not.
  
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  So Proud of Pops

  by brandnew in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok so a car pulls up to the house and 3 eldurrs from my dads congo come up.

  they come in and have thee nerve to ask me to step out so they can speak to pops!!!!

  this is the good part.....pops says...and i quote " whatever needs to be said..can be said in front of my son".

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  brandnew.... as you once said to me, now I say to you... you are a good person for looking after your pops.

  And I am glad your Dad is finally starting to see the real truth of this religion. I am going for breakfast with friends this morning as well. No drive down the beach though... it's still a bit chilly here even though we are getting some above freezing temperatures.

  I hope you and your Dad enjoy breakfast. Hugs to you and your pops!
  
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  What Is The Watchtower's Biggest Problem?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  the organization has many problems.

  certain doctrines are problematic.

  the men who run the organizaion have issues.

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  Their biggest problem is with their foundational belief that they are God's Chosen.

  All their crap flows from this. You take away that belief and they are no more special than any other religous nutbag organization.
  
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  Evolution is a Fact #23 - Faunal Succession

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  born in 1769, william "strata" smith was the eldest of five children of a oxfordshire blacksmith.

  he had only a basic education but became fascinated by local fossils when he began work on his uncle's farm.

  his flair for geometry inspired him to learn surveying which led to his career.. by 1794 he was supervising the building of the somerset coal canal, and was travelling around the country to visit other canal sites.

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  The fossil record is an amazing accomplishment and once again, refutes religious, creationist claims particularly that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, or that humans are 6,000 years old or that humans lived amongst the dinosaurs.

  
  
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  A list of top You tubers out there worth visiting, please add yours.

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm an unbelieving but baptised jw.

  i woke up to ttatt around 4 years ago.

  i haven't been regular to meetings for nearly 10 years.

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  DarkMatter2525: https://www.youtube.com/user/DarkMatter2525

  Mr. Deity: https://www.youtube.com/user/misterdeity
  
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  Should I get babtized?

  by BlackWolf in

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  2. friends

  i know this sounds like a ridiculous question but i was talking with my mom in the car today and of course we got on the topic of getting babtized again.

  she told me that jehovah holds me accountable for my sins regardless of wether i am babtized or not so i have no reason to be holding back because it won't change anything.

  my parents are the type of super strict jw who will shun you just for not being a witness.

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  I can second what Black Sheep says. I was in the same situation. I never got baptized so my parents weren't faced with shunning me for the DA or DF that would probably have occurred had I done the deed.

  While my parents were often mean spirited to us kids as adults, I didn't let that stop us from having whatever relationship was able to be had despite this horrible religion.
  

  Now, my Mom is dead, and my Dad is ailing with dementia. He told me a few years ago that he wanted my help and not the help of his 'spiritual family' because I was supportive. I nearly fell over! I have tried to live my life as an example of a 'worldly' person who is not evil like Botchtower claims. I never told my parents they were nuts for being JWs. In my country, they have the right to believe how they want. I did point out fallacies when they tried to convince me otherwise but I was always kind but firm. It appears to have worked.
  
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  This Website Was Mentioned By The Governing Body

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  okay, so at the "imitate their faith" ca there was a special speaker from the gb.

  and he started discussing psalms 1:1 and how we today could "sit in the seat of scoffers".

  he then mentioned that many bros. and sisters criticize the org and think they are so smart by researching online.

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  Evidently ( ) we are striking nerves. The Apostate Army is alive and kicking. Keep up the good work peeps!