"They doth protest too much methinks."
When claims made cannot hold up to scrutiny, when one tries, at every attempt, to quash inquiry, then there is something problematic with what is being presented.
Posts by Heaven
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23Those darned apostates
by berrygerry injuly 15, 1992 wt.
"apostates capitalize on errors or seeming mistakes made by brothers who take the lead.
our safety lies in avoiding apostate propaganda as though it were poison, which in fact it is.".
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gone for good said: a day ago
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so your Mom was ok with their deliberate move from just being ''imitating wannabees'' to a flully formed, legally recognised ''snare and racket'' of their own manufacture?Hey gone, I am not sure my Mom was ok with them declaring themselves as a religion due to their previous assertions that they were NOT a religion and therefore no part of 'Christendom'.
My Mom was very clear that JWs were a sect and NOT a religion. This was pre-1973 (before I was 10 years old). I believe I was questioning the JW stance that they weren't a religion. It looked and sounded like one to me.
Once Watchtower declared themselves a religion, my Mom said nothing. Neither did I as I was not one to introduce JWs and their crap as subject matter for discussion very often. I honestly think that my parents had their doubts but clung to the hope that their doubts were unfounded as many older JWs do.
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Wife fully awake.
by cappytan ini learned this past week that my wife is now awake.
i just shared the pbs newshour segment with her with no comment other than something along the lines of, "jw story on pbs.".
she is furious at the arrogance of these men.. thats what happens when you get a momma angry!.
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Heaven
Yay! I, too, was wondering when she would join us here.
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[REPOST] Memorial Non-Attendance: The Single Most Impactful TTATT Witness to Family and Friends
by AMNESIANO in(originally posted march, 2014)anyone who has awakened to ttatt and has conscientiously left the organization--especially a once-prominent, highly-regarded, studious believer from a prominent multi-generational tribe of jws-- after decades of devout, high-profile "serve-us," who continues to put in an annual appearance at the memorial thoroughly subverts and undermines, by this one act, any hope s/he may entertain that his/her departure will stir family or former friends to question the whole watchtower bamboozle.
by this one concession s/he assigns him-/herself by every single jw to their handy and dimissive purgatory: the "spiritually-weak.".
nothing blasts a louder, clearer, and more deliberate message to the jws who personally knew you and those familiar with your jw bona fides that you are not merely "not making the meetings," "inactive," or "spiritually-weak," but that there is a conscientious reason you have rejected the entire watchtower society life than choosing to forego what they know you once believed to be jehovah's must-attend, one-and-only, holy/sacred event of the year for his people, the lord's evening meal.. you hand them the very justification they so relish to self-righteously label you as a "submarine witness" deserving of jehovah's, and more importantly, their judgement.
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Heaven
stanlivedeath said: why the use of the word "memorial" isnt this just watchtowerese ?
It's the JW word for 'funeral'. They 'flock' (ahem) annually to Jesus' funeral.
They gather on the wrong day to NOT do what Jesus supposedly instructed all Christians to do.
Hence, the moniker this event has been given it by the ex-JW community:
The Reject/Ignore Jesus Party.
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Why does the Almighty need a mediator?
by economy ingod is alike to all of his children, hence cannot elevate one child above all others just because one was brought into existence before others.
(ezekiel 18:4) someone has to be first-born which does not give him any superiority over others!
interestingly, jesus simply dismissed the whole idea of one being placed over the others as pagan.
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The borrowed magic of the memorial
by Half banana inmyth comes from myth and ritual comes from ritual.
myth and ritual are borrowed in the way fire is borrowed to light another flame.
john 6:53 says that whoever does not eat (jesus) body and drink his blood will have no life in him.
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Heaven
JWs gather once a year on the wrong day to NOT do what Jesus supposedly instructed them to do.
As for the Christian faith, this sums it up pretty well: -
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Heaven
Back when Rutherfraud said this, JWs were considered a 'sect' and not a 'religion'.
My Mom was crystal clear with me on this fact.
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Heaven
Well, I do, of course. My levels of seratonin, endorphins, dopamine, and melatonin, to name a few, are all key factors in the functioning of my brain.
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Is the organization actually gaining more members or losing more?
by yogosans14 inlast time i was at the kingdom hall they were praising themselves about all the growth in members they have been having.
is this "growth" they are having statistically accurate?or are a lot leaving?
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Heaven
I suspect that even if Botchtower tracks people who leave, I am not sure they'd publish those facts. It probably doesn't look good.
With a large majority of the industrialized world's people aging, there is quite a number who will become too old to witness and will die off in the next 20 years.
My Father is one of these people. I have no idea what his official status is as a JW. I suspect it is 'inactive'. I guarantee they've removed him as a Ministerial Servant. He no longer has the ability to witness. Dementia has a way of doing that to a person.
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Heaven
Perhaps all the money they've had to pay out for the ever increasing number of law suits has affected their ability to pay their electricity bill.
