Posts by Heaven

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1975 all over again!!!

by John Aquila in

wt study edition jan. 2015.

here is the bait:.

as the number of kingdom proclaimers increases and as we near the end of this system of things, there is an urgent need for more facilities.

Wow... thx Villiage Idiot. From that video Elaine Riccaboni was basically threatened that taking a blood transfusion would not allow here to survive Armageddon and therefore, she would not have ever lasting life!

So glad she and her husband didn't listen to those clowns.

My former team lead worked with a guy who sold his house and quit his job because 1975 would bring Armageddon. I suspect this man had to get a new job and acquire accomodation again.

The interesting part of all of this is how Botchtower handles their errors. They certainly don't man up to them but rather, repeatedly, blame their members. What a bunch of a-holes!

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STAY ALIVE 'TIL 2132! -- Generation (X′+X″) <= (1914+λ[A′]-α[A′]+λ[A″]-α[A″]-x) <= 2132

by Gilgamesh in

generation x+x=generation why?

already bringing "great tribulation" on watchtower readers.

the watch tower society has got some splane-ing to do.

Heaven

half banana said: Jesus failed miserably in his prophecy as have all subsequent notions of extending further dates to it.

When I was younger, I used to be wonder why the Jews didn't follow and accept Jesus as their Messiah and saviour.

The only conclusion I could come up with was he had to have been viewed as some sort of nutbag.

Just like how we view present day people claiming to be Jesus/the Messiah.

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Need Help with Blood Transfusion Illustration

by Dissonant15 in

please, who can provide an intelligent rebuttal to the following illustration?

i always thought it was bullet-proof:.

"if your doctor directs you to 'abstain from alcohol' would you be ok to have it injected into your veins rather than drink it?

Heaven

Alcohol and blood are not the same substance. You do not circulate alcohol in your circulatory system to stay alive. But you do circulate blood. Without blood, you will not live.

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BBC interview about 1975 - never heard this before..

by defender of truth in

for any lurkers who don't believe the watchtower taught that the world would end in 1975... rare jehovah's witnesses 1968 interview "armageddon and 1975" london watchtower rep speaks to bbc.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=npmt-ml-m-g. --------.

but where will this system of things be by that time?

Heaven

Me and my younger bro were prepping to go to College in the early 1980s. My Mom tried to dissuade us as "the end was so close now". The 2 of us just looked at her with incredulity. I said "Mom, Armageddon was supposed to be here over 5 years ago."

And still, Armageddon has not arrived.

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Need advice: Intimacy with my wife almost non existint because she considers me an apostate

by goingthruthemotions in

just on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.

you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.

up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.

Heaven

Shiva said: What is Guardians please?

Hi Shiva... one such reference is related to the testimony of Geoffrey Jackson during the Australian Royal Commission's investigation into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse Case #29 The Jehovah's Witnesses. Jackson referred to the Governing Body as 'The Guardians Of Doctrine', which interestingly enough, creates the acronym G.O.D.

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Litter-A-Trash Carts

by Calebs Airplane in

is this the reason they call them litter-a-trash carts?.

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Heaven

Shiva said: have witnesses ever used the term The rapture? Is that not something catholic? Just wondering cos its been a while since I was in it...

Hi Shiva ... I haven't been 'in' for a while but I don't ever remember 'the rapture' being a term in the JW world. The rapture is typically a 'Christendom' doctrine. JWs do not believe all good people go to heaven, only 144,000 male anointed. All other JWs who have died before Armageddon are resurrected to a paradise Earth.

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Ahum...only 130 languages

by menrov in

in wt study edition december 2015, article called jehovah, the god of communication, par.

as a result, the new world translation is now available in whole or in part in over 130 languages.

to many jw's this will sound impressive.

Heaven

When I was a kid, I was told that JWs are preaching to 'all the inhabited Earth'. This sounded quite fishy to me so I did some fairly simple math and concluded that this claim was false.

This indigenous Amazon rainforest tribe was discovered in 2008. Didn't the JWs jump on this to go and preach to them? Come on... they've had 7 years now! These people look like they need to learn about Da Troof...

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Faulty Reasoning to Promote God's "Name"

by Dissonant15 in

as i am newly awoken, i am daily having epiphanies & revelations now.

i've been casually wondering to myself since the propagandist broadcast about the name "jehovah" if it would be more proper to call him "yahweh" to myself.

well tonight the answer suddenly came to me: it doesn't matter.

Heaven

Jehovah's Witnesses were once The International Bible Students. As a child I was told they renamed themselves but as an adult, I discovered that a schism occurred in the 1920's and the now known Jehovah's Witnesses re-branded themselves under Rutherford.

Also, doing research of the name of Jehovah will inevitably reveal that it is unpronounceable in Hebrew and therefore, an invention that came after the names 'El' and 'Yahweh'.

Yes, even God and religion evolve.

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That's it! The Jesus stories are most reasonably explained as myth. History makes this obvious.

by Island Man in

a careful examination of the historical pagan religious context existing at the time of the genesis of christianity leads any reasonable person to conclude that jesus is just another one of several similar myths.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn7teoa9ark.

Heaven

As Christopher Hitchens said: "What is more likely? That the laws of nature are suspended or an unmarried Jewish girl told a fib?" This works for ANY claim that does not follow natural laws - just replace 'an unmarried Jewish girl told a fib' with whatever far-fetched claim is being made.

I found this interesting video a little while ago of Bart Ehrman speaking about the criteria needed to establish historical accuracy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHJE7cetkB4

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Big Bang or Big Bust?

by redvip2000 in

i noticed on the october issue of the awake magazine a much softer stance on the big bang theory.

now, i'm not sure if officially the org was ever against this theory ( i did not find much on this), but i do recall on a congregation level, there was constant mockery from jws about the idea that universe was the result of a big initial explosion.. we now see a softer position on this.

as the org now explains:.

Heaven

So even if a cosmic explosion produced our universe, that would not contradict what is stated in the Bible."

While this statement is true, The Big Bang Theory does not include an explosion. This is a common misconception of the theory. So Botchtower did not bother to actually read a Science paper or article on what it really is.

The Big Bang Theory speaks of an initial point of singularity followed by a sudden burst of inflation or expansion. The expansion is still occurring today. While it is the most popular theory of the origin of the universe, it is not the only one.

I recently read this interesting article on the Theory: Big Bang Deflated?