# STAY ALIVE 'TIL 2132! -- Generation (X′+X″) <= (1914+λ[A′]-α[A′]+λ[A″]-α[A″]-x) <= 2132

by Gilgamesh 24 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

• ##### Gilgamesh

The Watch Tower Society has got some “Splane-ing” to do. So they brought out Brother David Splane, hoping to bring some credibility to the incredible.

It is now literally possible to explain the potential length of the “overlapping generation” with a formula like the following one where X′ and X″ represent two different (overlapping) groups of anointed persons.

##### Generation (X′+X″) <= 1914+λ[A′]-α[A′]+λ[A″]-α[A″]-x

This formula is applicable where A′ and A″ are symbols referring to anointed persons qualified to be in group one and two, respectively. λ[A′] (lambda of A′) refers to the lifespan of the person in the first group, and α[A′] (alpha of A′) refers to the age at which A′ is said to have been anointed. A person qualifying for inclusion in the second group (A″), must not only be born, but must already be anointed, in or before the year A′ dies. We must also consider the following two limiting factors: First, the maximum length of a lifespan (λ) usually put in a range from 99 to 119 years. Second, the minimum age at which one may be considered to be anointed (α), put in a range from 10 to 20 years. And, finally, we must subtract x, the number of full years that the lifespan of A′ overlapped with A″. If A″ happened to be born in the same year that A′ died, then this x=0.

##### You’ll get your due in 2072!

If we plug in the information for FWF (Frederick W Franz) as a case that fits the first group of anointed, we would get:

Generation (X′+X″) <= 1914+99-20+λ[A″]-α[A″]

We would now only need to assume a lifespan and an age of anointing for a person who qualifies to be in the second group. If we also assume that A″ also has a lifespan of 99 years and also has an anointing age of 20, and was born in 1992, then the formula could be filled in as follows:

Generation (X′+X″) <= 1914+99-20+99-20 = 2072. Therefore, the overlapping generation could reach as far into the future as 2072.

##### 2132: It’s around the corner, too!

Of course, we could also assume that FWF was not the ideal candidate to maximize the length of the generation. Perhaps there was a person, born in 1904, and anointed at 10 years old who also lived to be 119 years old. It doesn’t seem likely, of course, but it’s potentially possible. Perhaps it’s even more possible in the second group when medical advances of the 21st century might increase more lifespans toward and perhaps beyond the 119 year limit.

We could then, plug in our maximized examples for both groups and get the following numbers in our formula

Generation (X′+X″) <= 1914+119-10+119-10 = 2132. Therefore, the overlapping generation could reach as far into the future as the year 2132!

How ONE generation has become TEN generations.

Imagine! This means that “this generation” could potentially include, in my own case, my great grandfather, who was actually a co-worker with Russell in 1914, my grandfather (deceased), my father (living), myself, my children, my first grandchild (due in December 2015), my future great-grandchild (2040?), my great-great-grandchild (2065?), my great-great-great-grandchild (2090?), my great-great-great-great-grandchild (2115?). That’s TEN generations in all!

Can you imagine? When Jesus said “this generation will not pass away” that could have meant the same thing as if he had said “TEN generations will not pass away.”

##### Legitimate?

Of course, there are also ways to evaluate this from a Biblical perspective. We can discuss, for example:

(Deuteronomy 23:2) “No illegitimate son may come into the congregation of Jehovah. Even to the tenth generation, none of his descendants may come into the congregation of Jehovah.”

If 1 can equal 10, perhaps this actually meant 100 generations!

Poor bastards!

• ##### Prefect

I am lost.

I am rubbish at maths.

I was lost before this equation.

Now I am really lost.

• ##### Prefect

CO Visit this week.

Tuesday meeting he was praising JW Broadcasting and the explanation of overlapping generation.

I know of a few older ones in congregation who do not agree with it.

• ##### goingthruthemotions

i think my head just exploded....WOW. the amazing part is this. If one of the guardians (GOD) presented this to the sheeple.

they would lap it up like a kitty to milk..and be in awe and lie that they follow it.

how can uneducated people be keep in line? Mystify with numbers!

• ##### Slidin Fast

The over-complicating was started and encouraged by the recent ex=splane-ation. The speculative fantasy that he started with his chart invited other speculation based on this flawed logic. I find that one way to test a theory is to exaggerate it in order to find its weaknesses. That is what Gilgamesh has done.

Splane's other stupid mistake was to use a pregnant pause to invite his audience to think of the best scripture to define "generation". It takes little time to find numerous, more reasonable and less tightly stretched meanings for generation.

The whole notion is ridiculous. Definition: deserving or inviting derision or mockery; absurd. Or WT definition: "deserving or inviting..."

• ##### prologos

Overlapping for dummies

there is a simpler formula/equation used in the near "High--get your life in order--" thread.

only 2 values needed: the year of death and 1914. so

deduct 1914 from the year of death of 'group one' member, and add that figure (life in the generation) to his/her's year of death. that's when a similar overlapper's rapture should occur. then Armageddon. example:

3) George Gangas 1896 -( 1996, -1914)= 82 years life in generation, add 1996+82 = 2078 rapture of George Gangas the second.

age 18 in 1914 . RIP ? not according to wt doctrine, instead now training for combat in the A-war to start after 2075.

• ##### DesirousOfChange

Splane's ex-splaning was all nothing but another

stupid attempt to fix this stupid doctrine

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It was a Duct Tape response!

Doc

• ##### truthseeker100

It is now literally possible to explain the potential length of the “overlapping generation” with a formula like the following one where X′ and X″ represent two different (overlapping) groups of anointed persons.

##### Generation (X′+X″) <= 1914+λ[A′]-α[A′]+λ[A″]-α[A″]-x

This formula is applicable where A′ and A″ are symbols referring to anointed persons qualified to be in group one and two, respectively. λ[A′] (lambda of A′) refers to the lifespan of the person in the first group, and α[A′] (alpha of A′) refers to the age at which A′ is said to have been anointed. A person qualifying for inclusion in the second group (A″), must not only be born, but must already be anointed, in or before the year A′ dies. We must also consider the following two limiting factors: First, the maximum length of a lifespan (λ) usually put in a range from 99 to 119 years. Second, the minimum age at which one may be considered to be anointed (α), put in a range from 10 to 20 years. And, finally, we must subtract x, the number of full years that the lifespan of A′ overlapped with A″. If A″ happened to be born in the same year that A′ died, then this x=0.

##### You’ll get your due in 2072!

If we plug in the information for FWF (Frederick W Franz) as a case that fits the first group of anointed, we would get:

Generation (X′+X″) <= 1914+99-20+λ[A″]-α[A″]

We would now only need to assume a lifespan and an age of anointing for a person who qualifies to be in the second group. If we also assume that A″ also has a lifespan of 99 years and also has an anointing age of 20, and was born in 1992, then the formula could be filled in as follows:

Generation (X′+X″) <= 1914+99-20+99-20 = 2072. Therefore, the overlapping generation could reach as far into the future as 2072.

I don't understand why people don't get this it's so simple.LOL

Maybe this will help

 d dx c f(x) = c d dx f(x)

"The derivative of a constant times a function
is equal to the constant times the derivative of the function."

 d dx 5x2 = 5· 2x = 10x. d dx 8x = 8· 1 = 8.

Practically jumps off the screen at you doesn't it. So then based on 8. refers to the beginning of the eighth figurative day of creation. About to happen any time now!

It's so simple and obvious that if we didn't proclaim it here the rocks would cry out!

• ##### Slidin Fast
My stones are crying out, they are about to explode.