Posts by GromitSK

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Stumbling Your Fellow Brothers

by dig692 in

jw
friends

i just felt the need to express my thoughts on the matter of "stumbling others" in the congregation.

they tell you that you are accountable for your own soul and responsible for your own spirituality, and then they tell you that you can't do something if its going to stumble your brother.. if a brother/sister sees me doing something not condemned in the bible but maybe is a matter of conscience and he/she is stumbled...why is that my fault?

what makes me accountable for that?

GromitSK

It seems to me the Bible is about control. Organised religion is about control. Why would the witnesses be any different? :)

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Grrr I'm so peeved.

by creativhoney in

jw
friends

last night i was at my 'friends' house she hasnt been to the meetings for about two years now, but let's have it said: in the twelve years i have known here shes done about two good stints of attending, been dfd and gone back etc.

she lives with her boyfriend.. well i happened to just mention something about my family and she launched into this whole don't attack the witnesses you know its right barage at me.

i hadn't even mentioned religion.

GromitSK

I agree with cantleave. I see sign of internal conflict in you friend's behaviour. It can only truly be resolved by doing some research. Obviously I don't know your friend, but I am willing to suggest that she is too scared/too lazy/for some other reason can't/won't do research. Knowledge really is power. I think it is very difficult to persuade a person away from beliefs while they are unable or unwilling to do some work on their own. Often this ends up with the person simply countering each argument you raise with the party-line and not really listening, or it ends in a fight and a waste of your energy.

Whether the books cantleave recommends would do any good depends on whether your friend would/could digest them. I haven't read the Cult book but Crisis of Conscience exposes WTS for what it is.

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An Apology ..... (of sorts)

by AllTimeJeff in

jw
friends

opinions are like certain orifices, everyone has one.. it's only if you insist that yours is the only one in the room that counts that you become like certain orifices....... with that in mind, i wish to offer a small but sincere apology to all members of our unique little community on jwn.

(that even includes perry).

now mind you, i don't apologize for the views i have, esp my political ones.

GromitSK

In the name of Jehovah I forgive you. I may have to shun you though for a bit until I think you're really humiliated. OK you're back.

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PREJUDICE---HAVE YOU BEEN AFFECTED BY IT?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i was raised in a larger city congregation.

there were many black and white families and there were other nationalities in the area.for the most part, i do not recall seeing obvious prejudice manifest in the congregation.

have you seen or experienced prejudice from congregation members?

GromitSK

Yeah I am gay - they kicked me out. LMAO

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A question for all ex jws AND JW's here, btw I'm new too

by EndofMysteries in

jw
friends

so far quite dissappointed from what i've seen.

this is very very important, first i"ll address the non/ex jw then i'll address the jw's (jw's scroll down if don't wanna see the first part).

i see so many who have concluded that it was not 'god inspired', a lot of what is being done, and their conscience told them that many things conflicted with jesus teachings and the bible.

GromitSK

All this energy wasted on someone who just needs their medication adjusting.

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Do you still read the bible?

by boyzone in

i can't.

i can't even bring myself to pick up the book anymore but i'm still a christian.. not sure why, just this feeling of guilt when i read it, and guilt if i don't.. anyone else have an aversion to the good book?.

.

GromitSK

I don't see any value in reading the Bible. You might find it useful to leave the damn book alone for while (depending on how long you have been away from the WTS). Maybe when life is settled and you have some equilibrium you will be in a better position to assess the claims made by those who follow this book and form your own view based on research.

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