Posts by JustHuman14

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WATCHTOWER 15/10/09 RE. D/F'D FRIENDS

by BluesBrother in

this is the 4th study article, to be studied christmas week as it happens.

title - "maintaining friendships in a loveless world".

para 2 "today, what a pleasure it is to be associated with a worldwide organization whose members follow the pattern set by first century christians.

JustHuman14

Same old crap by the Old Fools at Brooklyn. The same sh*t reasoning over and over again:

Jehovah= Watchtower

Leaving WT= Leaving God

Same old sh*t...nothing change...specialy when they say that we are living in world without love...We have seen "WT's" love...Kicked out from my house after been disfellowshiped, no one of my "friends" and "relatives" give a sh*t if I'm dead or alive, or if I have something to eat.

My real friends are the so called "wordly"...they never stop loving for what I'm, and for them didn't matter if I was a JW, or Budhist. They accept me without any CONDITIONS...

Love is a Temple

Love the HIGHER Law

WT never shows love. JW's love you as long as you follow what the GB dictates without any questions. I don't need friends like that thank you. I had enough of you for 33 years.

GO TO HELL YOU AND YOUR F*CK*ING ORGANIZATION

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Is the WTS preparing for a MASS EXODUS?

by passwordprotected in

hobo ken and i were chatting about this yesterday.. the wts has past experience of losing vast numbers of members very quickly.

from their post-25 and post-75 experiences they will know how best to prepare their organisational structure to remain afloat when they experience another exodus.. we're only 5 years from the 100 year anniversary of ct russell walking into the dining room and announcing the gentile times had ended.

since then, millions of people have molded and adjusted their lives and personal expectations based on the date 1914. the wts must know that 2015 is going to bring with it one or two upset jws.... so, is the wts preparing for a mass exodus right now?.

JustHuman14

I will agree with your observations. It might not be a Mass Exodus like 25, or 75 but the figures show that many JW's are leaving. The only increase they have is in Third World Countries. There we have uneducated people, limited access to the internet, plus WT's "gospel" catches the poor masses of those countries.

I believe that in the following years the will experience reduce of their peak publishers. It is already happening. They will try to save as more money they can, since we are living in hard times for Cults - INTERNET

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Catholicism--Curious About It

by White Dove in

jw
friends

does anyone here have any catholic experience or have friends who are catholic?

although i'm wiccan all the way, i'm still checking things out and would like input about it..

JustHuman14

I'm now an Orthodox. The name actually is Holy Catholic Orthodox Apostolic Church. I was really amazed by the spiritual wealth of the Orthodox Church, but most of all the Apostolic Succesion for almost 2000 years. I found out the real meaning of Christianity and in the end of day Jesus will save us ALL.

This link has interesting articles in English about Orthodox Church

www.oodegr.com

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When love dies...

by JustHuman14 in

jw
friends

in my mind lately this thought is spinning round and round.

can you find real love in the wt world?

i guess you cant.

JustHuman14

In my mind lately this thought is spinning round and round. Can you find real love in the WT world? I guess you can’t. Everything in the WT is programmed by the leadership of that cult.

There are rules how you should love someone, what are the “Theocratic Standards” for someone who wishes to get married, qualifications for man, woman. Once I recall there was a CO and he “arranged” for 2 young pioneers to get married. At the time I was in my mid 20’s and I was surprised, find it odd how come those 2 persons get married. They had a complete different back round. He hardly finished high school, low profile and has grown up in a Greek village. She was from UK, educated, funny, powerful character. But for the CO they were the perfect couple since they were both PIONEERS.

Even in my case (counting the days that I will leave home) I realize that there is no love in the WT world. The only connection that keeps JW couples together is WT rules, meetings, field service, family “bible study”, reading the magazines Circuit Assemblies, and their life connected only through WT’s activities.

There is no real love, everything is faked, and most of all you cannot find unconditional love. The foundations of a relationship is build only upon WT’s rules, and when one of the part feels that cannot line up with those rules then the inevitable occurs.

While in normal relations are based upon love and understanding, in WT world is build upon rules. Especially when you realize that no matter how you try to save the relation, WT will break it apart with shunning policy and all the aspects that come along with.

And all this trouble and pain are created by a “religion” claiming that follows Jesus and suppose to reflect Christian like qualities. I have seen most of JW’s marriages having really hard times and basically they are together because of the WT.

I guess love shouldn’t be based upon rules, besides love endures all things. I guess is time to leave completely what connected me with the WT and start a new life, a new beginning, looking to find real love…

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JW Defenders- Is WTS Right to Insist You Stay Away From these Websites?

by OnTheWayOut in

i read these threads and there are a few that bend over backwards to say why wts is correct on this issue or that issue.. they act like typical jw's that refuse to acknowledge points that may show that wts is not following the scriptures or that wts goes beyond the scriptures in a way that is not supported by others.. the point could be the blood issue or shunning or whether 1799 or 1914 was the start (or finish?

) of the last days or whether there is a faithful and discreet slave class or not.

i don't want to harp on each point.

JustHuman14

In every EX-JW discussion there is always a RENAIA...a faithful JW that no matter what will stand to defend the WT Crap Society. I have seen many Renaias in other forums and also in other languages. They are the ones that complain that we attack them when they defend WT. There is only a HUGE difference between WT and JWN or any other Ex-JW forum.

Here we are using LOGIC and we try to discuss certain matters, either they are doctrinal, believes, or a certain policy of the WT that changed for certain reasons.

Another major thing that JW defenders forget, is that despite the fact that those forums are negative towards WT still they ACCEPT them to post and express their opinion and disagreement. SOMETHING THAT THE WT REFUSES to that in everyone that disagree with them. Not even they don't accept a dialogue, but they SHUT any voice of disagreement...Here Renaia you have a platform to stand and speak, something that the WT refuses for all of us. Here we have DEMOCRACY and everyone has the right to speak and defend their possition

You expecting from us to leave you without any debate to promote WT's agenda. When we point out the mistakes of that cult you complain that we are "opposing you" and you act exactly like WT does. You see WT likes to play a basketball game but does not want any other team in the playground!!! The real reason is they cannot win, they cannot face any other team since they will LOSE. Simple as that.

Do you Renaia what is the best APOSTATE MATERIAL?

It is the WT's old publications, old light, old doctrines, and most of all FALSE PROPHECIES. We don't need any other apostate material than that. WT has lied in almost every subject that is why in this forum many ex-jw's have suffer the pain by that Cult.

I was asked to leave house since I couldn't accept WT doctrines anymore. I spend 33 years of my life preaching for a generation that it will not pass and the END will come. I left school in the 80's to become a pioneer because the END was SO CLOSE. My dad spend his fortune for the WT but eventually he died so old and see NONE of WT's prophesy been fulfilled. I stayed uneducated due to WT's promise of the END...many times I'm cleaning toilets, doing hard jobs just to earn peanuts.

My best friend was suffered severe depression and killed her self. WT DESTROYS what it touches. But still you are accusing us for liars!!! Perhaps you should ask those who lost a child due to Organ transplans(1964 was a matter of conscious, 1967 was forbidden, 1981 was ok). Or many other JW's in my country and in many other countries that suffered years in prison due to neutrality issue. WT was refusing alternative solution for many years and now they accept it. Can you tell me WHY did I had to suffer in prison....

Indeed we hate WT and their leadership...but for sure we don't hate you. You are only making it easy for us from your answers and your lack to have dialogue. You are helping us with your attitude those who deside to FREE THEIR MINDS and see how evil is the WT. And believe me they ARE MANY...

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JW Defenders- Is WTS Right to Insist You Stay Away From these Websites?

by OnTheWayOut in

i read these threads and there are a few that bend over backwards to say why wts is correct on this issue or that issue.. they act like typical jw's that refuse to acknowledge points that may show that wts is not following the scriptures or that wts goes beyond the scriptures in a way that is not supported by others.. the point could be the blood issue or shunning or whether 1799 or 1914 was the start (or finish?

) of the last days or whether there is a faithful and discreet slave class or not.

i don't want to harp on each point.

JustHuman14

In every EX-JW discussion there is always a RENAIA...a faithful JW that no matter what will stand to defend the WT Crap Society. I have seen many Renaias in other forums and also in other languages. They are the ones that complain that we attack them when they defend WT. There is only a HUGE difference between WT and JWN or any other Ex-JW forum.

Here we are using LOGIC and we try to discuss certain matters, either they are doctrinal, believes, or a certain policy of the WT that changed for certain reasons.

Another major thing that JW defenders forget, is that despite the fact that those forums are negative towards WT still they ACCEPT them to post and express their opinion and disagreement. SOMETHING THAT THE WT REFUSES to that in everyone that disagree with them. Not even they don't accept a dialogue, but they SHUT any voice of disagreement...Here Renaia you have a platform to stand and speak, something that the WT refuses for all of us. Here we have DEMOCRACY and everyone has the right to speak and defend their possition

You expecting from us to leave you without any debate to promote WT's agenda. When we point out the mistakes of that cult you complain that we are "opposing you" and you act exactly like WT does. You see WT likes to play a basketball game but does not want any other team in the playground!!! The real reason is they cannot win, they cannot face any other team since they will LOSE. Simple as that.

Do you Renaia what is the best APOSTATE MATERIAL?

It is the WT's old publications, old light, old doctrines, and most of all FALSE PROPHECIES. We don't need any other apostate material than that. WT has lied in almost every subject that is why in this forum many ex-jw's have suffer the pain by that Cult.

I was asked to leave house since I couldn't accept WT doctrines anymore. I spend 33 years of my life preaching for a generation that it will not pass and the END will come. I left school in the 80's to become a pioneer because the END was SO CLOSE. My dad spend his fortune for the WT but eventually he died so old and see NONE of WT's prophesy been fulfilled. I stayed uneducated due to WT's promise of the END...many times I'm cleaning toilets, doing hard jobs just to earn peanuts.

My best friend was suffered severe depression and killed her self. WT DESTROYS what it touches. But still you are accusing us for liars!!! Perhaps you should ask those who lost a child due to Organ transplans(1964 was a matter of conscious, 1967 was forbidden, 1981 was ok). Or many other JW's in my country and in many other countries that suffered years in prison due to neutrality issue. WT was refusing alternative solution for many years and now they accept it. Can you tell me WHY did I had to suffer in prison....

Indeed we hate WT and their leadership...but for sure we don't hate you. You are only making it easy for us from your answers and your lack to have dialogue. You are helping us with your attitude those who deside to FREE THEIR MINDS and see how evil is the WT. And believe me they ARE MANY...

HELLAS Basketball team U20 CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE...

by JustHuman14 in

we are the champions...our u20 basketball team are the new european champions...again....

JustHuman14

We are the Champions...our U20 Basketball Team are the new European Champions...again...

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Today was day 1 of my district cultvention

by JerkhovahsWitless in

jw
friends

some of the memorable moments today would be:.

1) the nutty mother on stage with her little boy who became an unbaptized publisher at 6. i missed his current age, but he was a tiny little kid, couldn't be much older than a couple years over 6. tomorrow he gets baptized.

2) the husband and wife couple who work part-time to pioneer, but wanted to do more so they sold their home, down-sized to one car and made other adjustments to make their lives more simple to put the kingdom first.

JustHuman14

Boy am I glad that I haven't step a foot for the past 4 years....What a CRAP...WT is really CRAP...I just can't get it how they mess my life for 33 years...

A 6 year old baptized!!! GB, their elders,are INSANE...How can they condemn other Christians for baptizing their kids, despite the fact that event ancient Israelites had their infants circumsized. How can they make such fuzz since a 6 year old child cannot decide for serious matters. And the most EVIL of that SHIT CULT, when that child grows and becomes 20 and decides to leave that SHIT CULT he will have to suffer of that EVIL sactions of disfellowship by the WT SHIT CULT.

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Emotional blackmail in this cult sadly works

by troubled mind in

jw
friends

last night my husband and i were out having ice cream @ culvers when we noticed a group of jws coming in after their meeting .. it seemed a celebration for one family.

we saw the father of the family was all dressed up and associating with everyone .

he had da'd himself over 20 yrs ago and has been blacklisted from family and friends this whole time .i guessed last night was his reinstatement to the cult .

JustHuman14

I guess I know this blackmail very well....

It is so hard to be alone and out from this cult...the most irritating thing is the latest issue of the WT (public version)that says NO ONE SHOULD BE PERSECUTED for changing a religion by family members, and no matter what family bonds should never brake...

GB makes me vomit

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Kingdom Ministry ANNOUNCEMENTS September 2009

by RR in

for the month of.

november: what does the bible really teach?

if householders already have the book, publishers may offer any 192-page book published prior to 1992. translation: "we have too many old books, help us get rid of them".

JustHuman14

HOLD ON A SECOND DUDE....192 page Books printed prior to 1992 contains APOSTATE MATERIAL AND OLD LIGHT...

How on earth could some offer a book like "Surviving Into A New Earth" when everything in that book is OLD LIGHT...It says about the "generation" that it will not pass away and they will witness the end of this system, the heavenly door was closed in 1931, the preaching of JW's separates sheep from goatlike ones!!! This is the best way to "kill" a bible study by showing their past doctrines and their "mistakes"

Is the GB getting NUTS!!!