presence...coming...
I am not a scholar, at all
but that I can understand when I study the Bible...
wannabe , I am glad to meet you !
greetings !
the greek word parousia!
how should it be translated?.
i say, that because it can be applied to presence; which the governing body who does have an ax to grind, would jump on; and apply it, as they have to the thirteen occurrences, where it appears in their new world translation bible.. as i said, it can be applied to their teaching that the christ was invisibly present in the year 1914, but according to the information i found, that application is incorrect.
presence...coming...
I am not a scholar, at all
but that I can understand when I study the Bible...
wannabe , I am glad to meet you !
greetings !
now, i know that the 2012 issue has been blown out of proportion.
and i know all the reasons that believing in them are wrong.
but has anyone else noticed a growth in this type of conversation?
Don't get me wrong I DO NOT believe in the 2012 prophecies. And I hope you were joking in your post and the link, wantingtruth.
you are welcome , bd.
also me , I do not believe in the "2012 prophecies"
instead, I believe YHWH's word which is truth
and, when I speak truth , I do not joke
greetings
now, i know that the 2012 issue has been blown out of proportion.
and i know all the reasons that believing in them are wrong.
but has anyone else noticed a growth in this type of conversation?
Brotherdan,
God didn't tell us when the end of this world will be ,
but through Biblical chronology found in inspired prophecies, He tells us when certain events - taking place within His people, during the "latter days"- will be , I mean, events that marks Christ's "coming"
and around 2012 a certain event will be , that is , the "70 years of Babylon" will come to end ,
and His worshipers with "spirit and truth" , who were/are prisoners in Babylon (and at the "Daughter of Babylon" ) will be made free and gathered in "one flock" under the Jesus Christ authority
see Jeremiah 29:10-14
for those "studious" Christians I recommend this theme
wantingtruth
so i was talking to one of my "apologist" friends, and he just got back from a mormon outreach mission in utah.
he was able to help a 17 year old mormon girl to begin to see the truth and was really excited about it.
he goes to these temple conventions and temple openings all the time to preach jesus to them.. so he was interested in doing that at a jw convention.
2 timothy 3:7.
"always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth.
".
The leaders of WT fit right the "daughter of Babylon's way of thinking described in Isaiah 47 !
read it .
wantingtruth
on you tube i found recently a man who claims to be both jesus and yahweh and god and christ and he wants to rule the world as foretold that christ would.
here is the link:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gari322z6re.
Oh , Kosonen !
what are you looking for ?
but I think you are worshiping Father "with Spirit and with truth" , and in this case these ones are not so dangerous ...
... as are the ones (false Christs ) sitting on the "seat of Moses" ... within God' people , settled themselves even "as god in the Temple of God" !
These ones represent the real danger for Jesus brothers !
I hope you understand , dear friend .
wantingtruth
i once looked into an old publication in the kingdomhall library and found what russell taught to be babylon the great.
i remember that it was not what the watchtower explains today, the world empire of false religion but it was something else.
but i do not remember the expanation.
Nice to hear again from you, Kosonen !
By the way , have you consolidate your view/understanding regarding who/what is BTG during the "latter days" period of time ? (I said during the latter days , and not all the time from apostles until today )
Christian Greetings , Kosonen
never quit - never give up!it may well be, i put this post on once before, but when did a litle extra encouragement ever hurt anyone?
we need all we can get during these last critical days, don't we?.
how many of us at various stages of our life have not felt like king david, because of our inherited tendency towards sin?
good to hear that from you , wannabe !
who, and where, are the chosen ones?.
" {1 john 2:27 niv} now, these chosen ones today can say as did the apostle paul did in the first century, which was:.
{revelation 12:9} it is only the chosen ones that satan cannot mislead!
Seed Sower , welcome here !
may I presume that your "background" in "religion" was not that of Jw's ?
I have listen to some video with a "name" like yours , and I apreciate that "testimony"
you have a p.m. / try to find it
wantingtruth
who, and where, are the chosen ones?.
" {1 john 2:27 niv} now, these chosen ones today can say as did the apostle paul did in the first century, which was:.
{revelation 12:9} it is only the chosen ones that satan cannot mislead!
Wannabe , you are not obligated/forced to answer !
I asked that for the sake of truth / people should need to hear it
greetings