Posts by Hopscotch

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My experience

by spawn in

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thought i'd better say hi!

to say i was once a "worldly person" would be an understatement.

i consider myself to be a man who has "been there and done that" and enjoyed all the pleasures of the world.

Hopscotch

Hi spawn and welcome. That is fantastic that both you and your wife are now out while your child is still so young.

The things you mention that you saw going on were exactly the things my husband and I saw during our 40+ years as JWs. After a while, the 'they're just imperfect men' excuse wears thin and your eyes are opened to the reality of it all.

And you're right - outside of JW's is where you will find true friends who do genuinely care and look out for each other. And they do it because they want to.

All the best to you and your family for the rest of your life of freedom outside the org.

Hopscotch

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There is life after Jehovahs Witnesses

by James_Slash in

i've been a member on this site for a number of years but i have never posted what i really think of the jw's and the org.. i left about 10 years ago - mentally.

but i have only made the long term decision to leave and never go back over the past 2-3 years.. it was difficult.

i have family and many friends who i still converse with on a regular basis.. being on the outside now i see what a major farce and a hypocritical state of affairs it all really is.. i often hear the comment "only people in the truth are really happy" and being a friend 'on the outside' many of my associates on the inside are far to easy to reveal exactly what they get up to when they are not at meetings or out knocking doors.. pre-marital sex, drunkenness, nightclubs, dating websites...the list goes on and on.

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James:

All I saw was backbiting, divisions, self-promotion and ego-trips. Jesus spoke about false prophets, wolves dressed in lambs clothing.. the list goes on and all of these terms describe Jehovahs Witnesses and the Watchtower Society to a tee.

That is exactly what my husband and I saw for the last 20 years or so of us being JWs. My husband saw it even more so during his days as an elder. But for many of those years we kept thinking it was just us who saw this and it was us who must have been 'weak' (or whatever term they like to use) to not want to go along with it and pretend it didn't exist. But one day you wake up and realise that it's not you at all that is the problem - it is them.

As you said - Good riddance to them.

All the best

Hopscotch

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NEW GENERATION DEFINED -- April 15, 2010 Watchtower

by Ultimate Reality in

from jw.org, here is the new definition of the generation from the april 15, 2010 watchtower.. .

article: holy spirits role in the outworking of jehovahs purpose.

13 third, holy spirit is at work in bringing bible.

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LennyinBluemont said:

What a rush it must be for the arrogant bastards on the GB to realize they can explain ANYTHING in ANY WAY, print it with their imprimatur, and millions of human beings will ingest it, lick their chops and say, "Thank you!" What a banquet they're dishing out. But all processed food. Very processed.

Not only do the R & F "ingest it, lick their chops and say thank you" - they shell out their hard earned dollars for the privilege of doing so. Millions of dollars.

The average printing quantity for the 'public version' of the WT is 37,000,000. They don't state what the average printing of the 'members only' version is but just say it's around 10,000,000. The last time we officially sold them at the doors we asked 40c each.

So 10,000,000 x 40c 'donation' = $4,000,000 for this issue of the WT. (It may very well be that they print 15,000,000 in which case $6,000,000).

Makes me fume.

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Confused about the current generation teaching? Get your Watchtower Generation chart

by truthseeker in

enjoy!.

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http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4126/generationh.jpg.

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Thank you for doing this for us truthseeker.

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Terribly Disappointed

by heybaby in

it seems that people on this site enjoying ganging up on people, most recently myself, and yet are slow to apologize.

that certainly reminds me of another group of people.

any guesses what group i'm referring to???

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heybaby you have a PM.

By the way

Hope all goes well with your baby.

Hopscotch

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Terribly Disappointed

by heybaby in

it seems that people on this site enjoying ganging up on people, most recently myself, and yet are slow to apologize.

that certainly reminds me of another group of people.

any guesses what group i'm referring to???

Hopscotch

((((((heybaby))))) - just read of all the stressful things that are going on in your life at the moment. I went through something similar a few years ago when my mum got cancer and my brother tried to suicide at the same time. It is very very stressful.

So take care of yourself, especially now you have a baby on the way.

All the best

Hopscotch

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Talked to a good friend

by EmptyInside in

i had one of the best days i've had in a long time.

it was cold and snowy so i declared my own snow day.

and went for a walk with my dog in 13 degrees fahrenheit while treading through snowy slush.

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Glad you had such a good day EmptyInside. And it was great you were able to reconnect with your friend.

Funny you were slushing through the snow and the cold while over here (Queensland, Australia) we were cooling off in our swimming pool.

All the best

Hopscotch

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Questions From Readers -- May 15th, 2011 WT

by sd-7 in

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is it acceptable for christian women to wear hair extensions?.

in bible times, the apostle peter advised christian women against "hair braiding and the wearing of expensive garb.

" the wearing of braids in one's hair has its origins in babylonian and greek culture.

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"a form of cannibalism"

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Why Do Some Elders Go After "Faded Ones" While Others Leave Us Alone?

by minimus in

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friends

so far, no one has really bothered me.

i always wonder why.

then i read of how some are always getting calls and visits.

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It could also be a matter of convenience to leave some alone for a while.

I believe that could be true in the case of my husband and myself. After 40+ years of being very active JWs (hubby an elder) we faded around 3 - 4 years ago. My father (an elder) gave us an ultimatum in January last year - return or my family cuts us off. When I told him we weren't going back he told me I was dead in his eyes and that also he was going to report us to our elders for apostacy.

That was 12 months ago. My family did cut us off but we have still not heard a peep from the elders in our old cong. We believe this is because we have my elderly MIL living with us. She is a staunch JW and her only other child is in Brooklyn bethel in the writing dept. He (my BIL) has told us that his position is way too important to come back to the Australian bethel so he is closer to us and can help out with his mother (who has very poor health as well as schizophrenia and is a real handful). He has also told us that he knows that if they stay in bethel he and his wife have the security of being looked after into their old age. (They have been in bethel for over 30 years.)

The elders in our last cong know him and one is a really good mate of my BIL. So we believe that it has been suggested that as long as my MIL is still alive that they don't make waves with us as who else is going to look after her.

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3/09 Study WT- new light on 'annointed'??

by isaacaustin in

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friends

my mom got a call from a friend who told her the 3/09 study wt has new light on the annointed.

anyone in the know?

?.

Hopscotch

When you want something new announced in a WT and nothing new is announced, then to get something new you merely "glean" something from the articles.

Or as my elder father proudly told me a month or so before he started shunning me:

"you need to read between the lines in the Watchtower to get the full understanding".

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