good catch sir82...awsome catch.
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Witnesses increase by 44% in 7 years Study Finds: 2001-2008
by Joker10 ina more detailed look at the just released american religious identification survey (aris) shows witnesses have increased from 1,331,000 in 1991 to 1,914,000in 2008. that is 583,000 more people, or a whopping 43.8 percent growth.
they now make up 0.8 percent of the u.s. population.. who says jws are in the decline?.
(http://b27.cc.trincoll.edu/weblogs/americanreligionsurvey-aris/reports/aris_report_2008.pdf).
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the new newbies need more posts....esp...of their own...
by oompa insimon and mods...i am getting pms and e-mails from our newbies...even asking me to post what they want to post.
?....cause they have blueball from having to wait so long to register here and post.....i just think that it may be a good idea to loosen rules some to let them post at least three times a day and unlimited after that.
isn't that what mods are for?....to catch anything that is a prob and kill it?...so if that provision is in place...then why the limit?.........these newbies are bustin at the seams........so why have these strict limits if we have mods?....now that last one is my question....i posted the rest for the newbies.........oomps.
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dutchstef - WELCOME!...and do you wear wooden shoes? : P
I will take reponsibility here. I am a bit of an impatient doofuss some days. I apologise for trying to push when i should be patient. Even at the grocery store I am always looking for the shortest line...Sofa and Lady Lee - thanks for halping me out before with posts...really
Ooomps....i did say "if ya want"..lol...thanks for lookin out for us newbs.With that said..lol...I can only post one topic a day and i already used mine. I want to suggest another...but i will refrain till tomorrow i suppose. I don't want to be "the ball" that gets bounced out.
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Pieces Lost
by SeekingSanity inhow do i begin this... i feel like pouring my heart out about something that is bothering me.
i'm getting older.
you know when we were young, we were given hope.
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oh man...Im so sorry i got your name COMPLETELY wrong....its STILL a note to YOU....give me something to remember you by....damn sorry about that.
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Nephilim . Please educate me the best ya can.
by lurk3r insigh.
i cannot believe how much the society fudges some thing.
it's starting to get me more than i thought it would.
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Sigh. I CANNOT BELIEVE how much The society fudges some thing. It's starting to get me more than i thought it would. Espcially the things we are led to believe as factual.
Pllease correct me if I'm wrong. I remember reading the Bible Book of Stories back in the late 70's as a child. I ate it up. There is a chapter in there somewhere about the flood and the Nephilim. I 99.999999 % sure that it said, very matter of fact , that the "sons of god", who they factuallly identified as angels that materialized and had hybrid offspring,the Nephilim.
I have been looking into what the bible has to say. And from the things i have read, it's not conclusive as to who the "sons of god" actually are... anyone give me any input on this?
I dont hvae a bible in front of me, but there is a scripture i read yesterday that REALLY has me wondering. Its says that the Nephilim were on the earth in those days...and also afterwards". The way i was raised was that God brought the deluge to destry the wicked men as he had regrets. Well, if he brought the flood to lose the Nephilim, why are they still on the earth after? Stands to reason perhaps Goliath was a Neph?
Thanks for looking at this thread.
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Pieces Lost
by SeekingSanity inhow do i begin this... i feel like pouring my heart out about something that is bothering me.
i'm getting older.
you know when we were young, we were given hope.
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Hello Pieces Lost,
I'd love to start out by telling you my first name...just so i could get you to look me in the eye, so i can let you know your not alone. I cant tell you my name, but i can tell ya, Im 38 (or so), Im divorced for over 10 years. I married at the young age of 22, and with my emotional baggage as being raised a JW I was wayyy younger. I was married to a Witness, and i have experienced first hand many of the things your referring to annd I really; really,want you to know that i can hear where your coming from. Welcome to the board, and I can see your a newb, just like me. Your gonna love it here. Your gonna love it here....cause for the first time in your life, your gonna get to know who you actually ARE. I can tell by the length of your post's that you are sincere and really want to sort your smack out. Im going to presume that since you put so much of yourself into the Organization growing up, your still a hurting unit...you were raised to think, "There is no TIME. Were running out of time! PL; we got time. We were both raised very similar, and thats the great thing about this board.Everyone here knows how much your hurting, cause we all hurt and in turn it would be great if you could feel better....and you WILL. You have time. Take it; it's yours.
DId you grow up like me? Like a lot of other JW's? Did you look forward to the District convention, cause there were going to be a WHOLE lot of new sisters there?Did you sit with your friends and take in the views? Were you one of the guys who was lucky enough to have parents that let you use binoculars during the sessions?lol I was a horndog and i didnt even know it...my thinking was really unbalanced with some things...and i didnt even know it. Not just mine, but pretty much me and all of my JW friends too.How bout you? You recall?
I don't know how long you have been divorced for; but you need to take advice from the majority here and give yourself the time.Take it, cause you can now. How are ya with the Truth? How far are you into the whole process of seperating how you think, vs how you feel? One of the things I have struggled with is where to go AFTER? How you doing with that?
Back to the girls. As A JW we grew up being told HOW to think, and for me, I believe that was the very heart of the problem. We were told how we should think about women, and in turn did are best with what we had to get ourselves one. Were in a new world now. The rules have changed, WE have to change. It's not like it used to be.No more going to the hall with the EXPECTATION of being able to hit it off with someone you already have so much in common with. For maybe the first time in your life, YOU are going to have to work to find yourself a woman. After i split up with my wife of 5 years....the ONLY thing I wanted was a new woman...love; to be able to replace all the empty feelings I had at the time with new ones. How bout you? Being raised as Witnesses we were very trusting folk, and its most likely you still are...If you wanna go through and figure it out all yourself, be my guest.If you wanna sort your head and feel better and fall in LOVE again one day...stick around here.
Worldly chicks vs Witness chicks -(no disrespect intended ladies,its boys chatting here)- Its detailed and you have t take the TIME to learn. WE have time. YOU, have TIME. I at my very core know where you coming from cause I have been there. You made mention in your first post about ASSURED percentage. Just because a girl is a Witness,does not mean she will not cheat on you. It does not mean that there is an assured percentage of girls in the truth that will be LOYAL to you. Worldly girls look at you different. None of them care about your personal record for magazines placed in one month. I KNOW what your talking about when a girl is off again on again,hot one minute cold the next. Like so many here, including myself we have lived a life using 100% of our hearts, and not using our brains at all. I KNOW where you coming from, really I do. I have given my heart up wayyy to much to a worldy chick...cause I WANTED that old feeling i had with my ex. Don't do it. The whole waiting to call a girl for 3 days or vice versa isn;t JUST a game, its almost a right of passage. She is TESTING you. She is worldly. She ALREADY knows how to do things, your just learning. TIME pal. Give yourself time. What are you looking for in a woman? OR do you just WANT a woman to feel better about yourself?I\m not being mean or trying to embarrass you here. You have your anonimity,SPEAK FROM YOUR HEART about the way you FEEL. Speaking from your mind, isnt so easy...at least it wasnt for me, and i still struggle with it. MOST of those girls (not all) are just trying to see what kind of guy you are. SOME of those girls, if you give them too much of you, will make you wish you never went near a girl at all (those girls that are testing you KNOW THIS ALREADY...guys have worked them over b4). Being in the truth from such an early age and NOT thinking about things we SHOULD HAVE has made us vulnerable...and i want you to be careful bud, cause i think from the vibe i,m getting, you might just be. THere is NOTHING wrong with this...just have to take the time to sort it out. And your in a good place to spend some time.
Just out of curiousity, let me ask you a few questions and see how you answer them. Your anonymous so you have no reason not to be honest with yourself. More importantly bud, right here, right now, you get to open up and no one is going to judge ya. Everyone wants you to sort yourself out and move on...WHEREVER it is that ya wanna go.
oh yeah...the bar thing.I wish i could observe ya...lol. I always told myself ," I'm a nice guy and I am in a bar. There HAS to be a nice girl in here somewhere" - First things first, if you are EVER going to want to find someone to LOVE your gonna have to make a concoius effort to improve your odds...lol
How are you doing with letting go of the truth? I let go the worst possible way. It was like a bandaid, and i ripped it off very slowly, one arm hair at a time. Do you work? What at? Do you think you know yourself? Wordly girls WANT a guy who knows themselves. What kind of exposure do you have to people in general on a given week? Hobbies? Do you consider yourself to be well hung? (lol..kidding,I dont wanna know) How long ago did you get divorced and how was your marriage. You HAVE to look at your past to recognize your mistakes. Did you make any? Did she? Do you like life? sports?Do you watch LOST? Damn good show of you don't. What makes you happy Pieces?
Im late for work..lol...I have to go and I hope you can respond to me. Pm me a link to this thread and ill make sure i get back later. Thanks man.
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What does your baptisam mean ?
by cluless ini resent the implications that are attached to it by the organisation.on a spiritual sence it means nothing to me.. .
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I should have asked....What do YOU think?And why? along with the other questions...sorry.My bad.
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Coming to the Father
by wobble inthis is for the christians on the site really,but all comments are welcome.. jesus said that "no one comes to the father,except through me", my understanding of those words is that we need to ask jesus to be our saviour,to accept,or adopt, us as sons and daughters,and thus become our eternal father,and thus we become brothers and sisters of christ and hence can have a relationship with almighty god.. i may have missed something so please add or correct me,but if the above is in essence correct no jdub of the " great crowd" can have a relationship with god,as they are not christs brothers.. this leads me on to ask,if you do believe as i do (as above) what can i do about the lords evening meal,i do not feel at present that i can go to any church,i will not go to a k.h,and i am alone in my belief as to family,so have any of you celebrated it alone?
and if so isn't that really weird?.
love.
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Good question wobble. I have been wondering this myself. My brother who is a JW invited me to the memorial, and I told him that I wasn't sure.Biggest reason being that i don't want to give any former friends of mine at the hall any ideas or go through any superficial conversations. I have come to LOATHE surface talk, as important as it is sometimes. I told him, "I'm thinking about going to Tim Hortons, buying some 5 dollar gift cards, and giving them to some of the homeless...Jesus would like that too". He did set me straight though and reminded me that Jesus said "Keep on doing this in rememberence of me".....so I AM thinking of going to hall where noone knows me.
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What does your baptisam mean ?
by cluless ini resent the implications that are attached to it by the organisation.on a spiritual sence it means nothing to me.. .
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I am ressurecting some threads from long ago...making an effort to raise some questions I have,and trying not make it all about myself with starting a new thread as there are already sooo many on here.
Baptism. While many people think that baptism is meaningless, this is one question i have wondered about myself, and, for myself. I was baptised in 89 or so. I'm trying to resease myself from of the JW dogma surrounding this important decision. At least i personally feel it is.
Many Witnesses insist, and I assume it is through WBTS publications that once you have made the oath of baptism, that it isn't just an act that we do for ourselves, we do it to show Satan that we choose Jehovah over him. Once your baptised, it's too late to go back. Since then i have learned that while I was baptised, it was not according to the way the Bible instructs. Sure the submersing in the body of water is the same, but I'm thinking that since the WBTS puts their own "spin" on it with the second question, and not anything to do with the holy spirit like the bible instructs, perhaps my baptism is not as significant as I have thought. What do YOU think? If you believe in Satan, do you think he cares one way or another? What does the bible say?
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pee. ess. - this is soooo awsome being able to ask questions, and get the customary "I don't know"...thank you one and all.
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Rutherford's Views on Women
by Leolaia in"the women make monkeys or dupes of men.
the men have before effeminate, soft and easily influenced and have lost their real manhood and sturdiness in the affairs of state and home.
for instance, when men are sitting at a table and a woman approaches, all the men arise and pay her homage and thereby elevate her to a place above men.
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www.news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090309/od_nm/us_washingmachine
Ohhh ladies! Your not gonna be to happy about this. :p
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The Watchtower Way of Laundering Money
by Lady Lee in.
i had not seen this before but it literally had my jaw drop open.
especially note the two letters at the bottom of the page.
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hmmm..I was poking around on some older posts here on the board. I see that the link that Lady Lee was referring to has been removed from the freeminds website...would that have been an order brought down by the WBTS by legal means? What did it say? Any alternative links?
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