Witness007
You're right!! Thank you for reminding me.......giggle I'm taking them right now......
Mandette
this is stupid....maybe..... i was in our local public library last week.
i looked for crisis of conscience.
so i asked about it.
Witness007
You're right!! Thank you for reminding me.......giggle I'm taking them right now......
Mandette
i think i am having a sort of mid-life crises.
the other night i began to wonder who were the people that influenced me the most in a postitive manner, making me who i am today..
) my third grade teacher.
my father.....and mother too......strong work ethic(depression kids), even though they are JW's they did their best for me...loved me even when I walked away from the organization. Words cannot express how I feel about them....
Terrie..my first friend on the "outside"......she loved me no matter what road I chose....that's more than I can say for my own sister.
My high school lit teacher..he would always tell me that I would have an interesting life...he was right!
Wow this is an emotional post!
Mandette
this is stupid....maybe..... i was in our local public library last week.
i looked for crisis of conscience.
so i asked about it.
Thank you all for your imput. I've been offline for a few days and am now just catching up.
I'm only faded. It's been about 15 yrs so I doubt they'd bother. Well maybe they would. Dad is an elder and I know(Isaw it personally as a teenager) there are elders who can't stand him. I think they'd mess with me to attack him. This is not being paranoid since I saw it myself.
Another interesting note is that I looked for Steve Hassan's book on cults and could not find that either. In fact if I remember correctly there's only one book on coming out of the JW's and that's in the fiction section. I only saw the listing,not the actual book so it may not really be there either. And this library I go to is a fairly big one.
Makes me wonder what they're so afraid of if they make books disappear!!! Oh and didn't Hitler have books burned during WWII??? Just a thought!
Mandette
this is stupid....maybe..... i was in our local public library last week.
i looked for crisis of conscience.
so i asked about it.
Carla
I would LOVE to do that.....but this one knows my parents and I've taken great pains to do nothing that would cause my elderly parents more grief. It is out of respect for them and my desire to have a good relationship with them.
The day is coming but I won't do it with mom and dad around.......
Mandette
this is stupid....maybe..... i was in our local public library last week.
i looked for crisis of conscience.
so i asked about it.
Gently
thank you! I didn't know all that. It was written on paper though and not entered into the computer. At least not in front of me....I will call and keep track....
I guess I'm being silly...........this woman use to talk to me and now ignores me.....even though I'm not df'd. Must be that new light coming through for her.
Mandette
this is stupid....maybe..... i was in our local public library last week.
i looked for crisis of conscience.
so i asked about it.
this is stupid....maybe....
I was in our local public library last week. I looked for Crisis of Conscience. They don't have it. So I asked about it. One of the librarians said they could order it for me and let me have first pick at it. They said they'd call me and let me know. I never heard from them.
As I was leaving the library, I saw one of the library employees that's a Borg member in good standing.......
I'm thinking she intercepted it......or maybe I'm just an idiot and being paranoid.......it just wouldn't surprise me if she did it.....
Mandette
well the light just keeps getting brighter and brighter yesterday my stepson and his wife told me they will be having very limited association with me due to some new light at the dc .
why did'nt they tell me this before i did 2 weeks work on there house for free!!!!!!!!!
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Does anyone know if this new flickering bulb refers to just the df'd? Or to everyone that's stopped participating?
geez..more things to hurt people! makes me angry!
Mandette
it makes me mad when i think how many doors i knocked on....especially as a kid.....and proudly read ps.
83: 18 and taught people gods name...jehovah.
when in fact is is almost certainly not jehovah, even wt says it is most likely yahweh or yehowah.
Baba
THAT'S RIGHT! I remember that now about the lost scrolls. I seem to remember learning that on the History Channel.
Wasn't there a book called Maccabbees or something like that too? So actually the bible is NOT whole. And there is much more information out there.
Are the lost books in print?
see I learn something new everyday!!!!!
I also thought it was a fascinating theory that Mary Madaglene may have been Jesus' wife!!! Wouldn't that tear everyone up if that could be proven!!!!
i've had this theory for some time and alluded to it occassionally but have never explored it in detail.. it is of course a huge generalisation so no, not everyone will fit into the boxes and i'd like people's opinion.
i don't know everyone's circumstances so it's based on a small sample of some of those i do know something about.
it could be completely wrong, it's just an idea.. basically, i have seen a difference between some of those ex-jws who walked out vs those who were kicked out.. the most bitter and obsessive seem to be the kicked out and, i must add, those who were legitimately kicked out.
Simon
I can only speak for myself. I faded about 15 yrs ago. I didn't have the resources that are here in the forum. I think I've done a pretty good job of moving on. My main motivation in being here was that I was thrilled to find a community of people that felt the same as I did about the JW's. And that there were many others who experienced similar things. This forum has made it possible for me to have other points of view.
I don't have the hatred for those in the organization. I don't want to hate. My goal has always been tolerance for others(such as my parents) decisions and hopefully to gain tolerance for my decisions.
And as for those that were df'd being more angry? Maybe that's because it wasn't their decision. A decision was made that dramatically affected their lives and they weren't allowed much imput if any in it.
Just a thought.
Mandette
well, we made it past the 3 million post mark ... what a huge milestone - it makes it one of the largest discussion forums on the internet!.
a big thank you to everyone who posted on this site, shared a little bit of themselves with us or just said 'hi' along the way.. thank you for making this place rock and kick ass!.
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Just in the short time I've been here, it's helped me!
Simon, I appreciate you and your hard work!
Congrats on the 3 million mark! And I wish you'd stay too.........
Mandette