thats how my grand mother responded when all of our family members came out of jw organization, either by disassociation or by disfellowshipping.. when we all started studying with jws, my grandmother too was there, but she stopped the study when the discussion over the dead happened.
she told the study conductor: i am convinced that there is only life, but no death.
because when my husband died of heart attack, i was not shaken by the incident.
OMG really?!! evil spirits? PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THAT CRAP? It's always some old woman from some far off country that remembers
some incident from childhood. I'm a middle aged man...was a jw for decades and have never heard of anyone of a right mind having
any experiences with evil spirits. I have heard 100's of stories of old times and demon activity but absolutely no one that personally saw anything..GROW
UP
i am not a jehovah's witness but i am very interested, i have many questions and hope they can be answered here.. i do believe in god, privately.
i do say my prayers daily and do believe god helps me in countless ways.
but i don't go to any church.. i have always been impressed at how smart, polite and nice jehovah's witnesses are and i always make time to speak to them when they call at my door.
welcome and I'm so glad you researched here first. I have but three words for you....don't do it!!!
My expert opinion {based on 20+ years} is that they are nothing but a cult. I spent my formative years completely engulfed by
this organazation. I have spent my entire adult life in therapy trying to lesson the anxiety and stress that comes from living every day
expecting the end of the world to come. My mother said that my brother and sister would never graduate from highschool {college is looked down on}.
That was in 1975! I graduated 10 years later...two of my sons have now graduated and going to COLLEGE...oh and my brother died, needing a blood
transfusion, which is forbidden by jw's. Your life will change completely, in ways you couldn"t now imagine. The list of jw no no's is so arbitrary and silly
I can't list them all...but I hope you don't like lucky charms cereal or girl scout cookies...cause you won't be allowed to purchase them. Anyways welcome
and good luck!! Oh yeah jw's can't use the phrase good luck either!!!!!!!!!!
the governing body not only lies to it's members about their true history but also about life itself, worldly people and former members.. here are some of those lies that come to my mind.. .
"jw's are the happiest people on earth" -.
fact: depression, anxiety, fear of punishment, paranoia, is what jw's live with every day.
great post!!! I was raised a witness and even in my mid 40's I still suffer from depression and anxiety. Now that i've been away from them awhile...whenever I see a witness, I can see the sadness in some of their faces. It's so sad!!
Does anyone know of data on this issue? Depression amongst jw's?
just wondering, i enjoyed checking it out from time to time.
and i apologize in advance if it is still on here.
it wouldn't come up in my search.
Glad to see I wasn't the only one unable to find it. If any of the mods can explain what happened to it, that would be great. That is, as long as it's not top secret or confidential.
just wondering, i enjoyed checking it out from time to time.
and i apologize in advance if it is still on here.
it wouldn't come up in my search.
Just wondering, I enjoyed checking it out from time to time. And i apologize in advance if it is still on here. It wouldn't come up in my Search.
Happy Friday everyone!
i have a number of problems with the noah's ark story that i could never find the answer to in the bible and so i thought i could ask here:.
1.how did noah get animals that are indigenous to areas he could not get to (e,g penguins, koalas, kangaroos, moose etc) .
2.the flood supposedly happened around 4000 years ago but there is evidence of civilisation dating back a lot further.
The best...worst thing about the mighty flood is that it didn't even accomplish anything. For all that effort and murder...what did we get?
The really bad people ie..the angels that assumed earthly bodies all escaped LOL??? and how good was Noah's kids they tried to rape him the second they got off the boat
i have a number of problems with the noah's ark story that i could never find the answer to in the bible and so i thought i could ask here:.
1.how did noah get animals that are indigenous to areas he could not get to (e,g penguins, koalas, kangaroos, moose etc) .
2.the flood supposedly happened around 4000 years ago but there is evidence of civilisation dating back a lot further.
Seems like I remember my mother telling me that at one time the earth was covered by a canopy of water. This created a greenhouse affect and the whole earth was similar in tempertature and climate. During the flood this great water [ceiling] fell to the earth and flooded it. Afterwards the sun beamed directly down on earth causing some areas to be hotter and dry others to be cooler and moist. I don't have a exact scripture but I think I remember something in the bible about a "great water canopy above the earth". Does anyone else remember this?
king of the north.
union, the "king of the south" can be none other than the rival non-communist bloc, under the .
so who is the king of the north now?
I remember this prophecy well. I was young and interested in world events. As i got a little older I noticed the, only slightly veiled nationalist overtones implied in those statements. It occured to me how lucky I was to be going door to door in USA! It's a lot easier to preach about the great anglo american dual world power being victorious...if you lived in the anglo american countries. Imagine knockning on someones door, waking them up and saying that.... in Russia or China or practically anywhere else.
How often does anyone actually hear the term... anglo american dual world power? It's like the GB's version of wonder twins !!!
this seems like a very good site on the subject.
https://sites.google.com/site/yahwehelohiym/an-ancient-view-of-god/one-god-or-many-gods.
one scripture that was mentioned that was very intersting to me was judges 1:19 where is says that the lord or yahweh was with judah and they drove out the mountaineers but could not drive out the people of the lowlands because they had chariots.
Yes the Israelites worshipped more than one god. The scriptures are full of calf worship,the witch 0f endor, the prophets of bael as well as countless other gods adapted from nearby nations. The prophets of Yaweh usually killed off these people.
here's a few from me.. no more having to go to stupid boring meetings.. no more having to go knock on doors in field service and waste my time!.
no more mind numbing elders meetings..
