to the christians on the board:.
thank you for living up to the best your beliefs have to offer.
with very few exceptions, my flailings and rantings as i refine my own "truth" have been greeted with patience and kindness, or kindly ignored.. i do not foresee that i will ever return to a belief system that you hold dear, yet i do respect your beliefs - and appreciate your insights.
For the record, I am in favor of people believing happy things. It is the torment of smart people that gets my dander up.
So long as all believers acknowledge that they are not as smart as me, and i should be respected as a smarter person, I've got no problem with them. (this is a joke folks)
Being an Ex-JW makes any man or woman my brother or sister.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/157788/1.ashx.
in the above thread, otwo made a comment about how someone might sue the wt based on their shunning policy.
i have not seen the topic discussed here and have been unsuccessful in getting the search function of the site to gather information about it, but i wonder if we as a group could sue the washtowel society.
I'm a fan of the phrase "put up or shut up."
Get me some evidence that the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society burns coal somewhere, I'll get you rabid lawyers looking for publicity. Anybody consider the ACLU? Its an organization that I love in concept, get concerned about in practice. However their unbalanced zeal could be useful.
ok heres the scenario.. i met this girl about 12 months ago, we dated for around 6 months then split up (another story).
we have started seeing each other again for around 3 months now.. the problem is, if i can call it a problem, she has two kids, whereas i have three that i see on thursdays and saturdays.
her ex has her kids every other saturday.
I don't get it. How does this prove JW's are evil?
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/157788/1.ashx.
in the above thread, otwo made a comment about how someone might sue the wt based on their shunning policy.
i have not seen the topic discussed here and have been unsuccessful in getting the search function of the site to gather information about it, but i wonder if we as a group could sue the washtowel society.
In my mind, the important thing here is that even if it were work intensive and involved, the final outcome would send a huge message to JW's and the outside world. Door to door work would be a little different with that kind of publicity. And, what kind of message would it send to wbts if suddenly they have to be aware of how they treat people-whether the suit wins or not. Look at how the elders followed me for weeks before disfellowshipping me in a grocery store parking lot. Shouldn't they have felt some restraint before harassing me?
Involving JW's in a legal suit would be like 'suing' them in itself. Think of all the uncomfortable elders, pioneers and ministerial servants subpoena'd and forced to defend their ridiculous behavior in front of a roomful of people who DON'T understand.
One thing I know from the last eight years in court with my ex 1-people HATE to go to court especially if they have to testify, it's a very intimidating experience 2-the legal expenses incurred by the neccessary defense are a burden and a form of retribution all by itself.
I disagree that this should be looked at as though it's an impossibility. It's just an issue that would deserve time and planning, but you have to believe that some things are worth the effort.
Winning doesn't necessarily need to be a realistic goal. I fight with Environmental Groups all the time. They very seldom "actually" expect to win. Just playing the game.
she talked about armaggeddon happening in the next year(methinks).
left a book about bible questions.
If they come up with another date, I will just predict that it too will fail as miserably as June 12, 2007 did last year.
Whoa! there was a June 12th non-Armageddon? I never heard of that, link?
Whats the big deal, the man just wanted to play "his part in this world". Isn't participating in a meeting kinda like voting?
i work in it.
there are days when i truly love my job.
i enjoy teaching people to surmount their ignorance and overcome their fears of technology.
While messing with a man's porn is truly a horrid act, he is the one who failed to treat his porn with respect and keep it in a safe but easily accessible place as all porn deserves to be treated.
You are not at fault my friend. It is this man's own disrespect of his porn that led to this.
a touching heartfelt experience at the atm machine!.
it was a very touching experience that i had this last weekend at the atm machine.
it was about half an hour discussion but what follows is the highlights that i remember most vividly.. it begins with a once a upon a time pioneer partner of my wife (h4o) coming in to the atm.. jw says....how are things going?
JW...Well we would sure like to see you back anyway.
Chyah WAH!?!?!?! why all the effort put into kicking people out?
has anybody noticed in many recent watchtowers that christ is now said to have "turned his attention to the earth in 1914.".
unlike the 60's they do not say christ "came" in 1914. the "proclaimers book " p137 says the bible students came to discern that "christ did not return, (even invisibly), in 1914.".
the way is now paved.
HamsterBait is supposedly a "Jedi Master" which I assume is pretty high ranking here. Anybody have experience with their truthfulness?
disclaimer: this is the rambling of a french mind, where the single word conscience embraces what the english language distinguishes as "conscience," "consciousness," "awareness," and is closely related to connaissance, "knowledge".. to this french mind "consciousness" appears as a wonderful yet bittersweet product of reflection (the specular or "mirror" metaphor being central to it).
although it is objectively related to animal sentience, our view of consciousness, i think, is entirely dependent on the seminal technique (the "technique of techniques," as french theologian gabriel vahanian put it) of language / symbolism (the ability to point to "things" even though absent or non-existent) and imagination (representing "things" on our inner and cultural "mind map"), from which both memory and anticipation as we know it derive.
functionally it serves a practical purpose, which is precisely technique: through this way of dealing with "things" we can "change" them.
I should probably reveal that I have a deepseated hatred of everything French, expecially thought patterns and then not bite on this one out of respect.
Lets just say the major reason why I supported a dumbfuck like George Dubya in our Iraq escapade was because what the French-led Europeans were saying on the matter was far too stupid and far too immoral to allow to prevail. It matters if Presidents of the United States or whole nations are morons. We have a solution for the President, the 60+ million Frenchpersons able to speak and therefore hurt the collective intelligence of mankind, I can think of nothing legal or humane to do about. grr. Poo
