has anyone noticed the recent deterioration in the quality of wt's contents lately?..
the spiritual food seems to be getting more and more shitty these days.
i have given a thought to what could really be going wrong, and if it is likely that some on the wiriting committee is consciously dishing out those nonsense to facilitate more poeple seeing ttat.
For a long time before I walked away I felt that the Organization was a spiritual desert. When I was giving talks, back in the day, I used to search for stuff that was uplifting and informative, of course anything of that quality came from outside, not the WT stuff.
I have been out a good few years now, if it has got worse it must be really dire, the spiritual food of the WT now is not just burgers with some horse DNA, it is 100% Horse s**t !
walmart, which already makes a lot of money from health care through its pharmacies and retail stores, is eyeing a line of business that would sell health insurance to small employers, and the company also wants to add to its chain of in-store health care clinics, the orlando business journal reported in two stories friday.. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/17/walmart-clinics-health-insurance_n_2498339.html.
This Joke appeared on here some time ago :
"One day, in line at the company cafeteria, Joe says to Mike, "My elbow hurts like crazy. I guess I better see a doctor."
"Listen, you don't have to spend that kind of money," Mike replies. "There's a diagnostic computer down at Wal-Mart. Just give it a urine sample and the
computer will tell you what's wrong and what to do about it. It takes ten seconds and costs ten dollars... a lot cheaper than a doctor."
So Joe puts a urine sample in a small jar and takes it to Wal-Mart. He deposits ten dollars, and the computer lights up and asks for the urine sample. He pours
the sample into the slot and waits.
Ten seconds later, the computer ejects a printout:
"You have tennis elbow. Soak your arm in warm water and avoid heavy activity. It will improve in two weeks. Thank you for shopping at Wal-Mart."
That evening while thinking how amazing this new technology was, Joe began wondering if the computer could be fooled. He mixed some tap water, a stool sample from his dog, urine samples from his wife and daughter, and a sperm
sample for good measure. Joe hurried back to Wal-Mart, eager to check the results.
He deposited ten dollars, poured in his concoction, and awaited the results. The computer then prints the following:
1. Your tap water is too hard. Get a water softener. (Aisle 9)
2. Your dog has ringworm. Bathe him with anti-fungal shampoo. (Aisle 7)
3. Your daughter has a cocaine habit. Get her into rehab.
4. Your wife is pregnant; twins. They aren't yours. Get a lawyer.
5. If you don't stop playing with yourself, your elbow will never get better.
Thank you for shopping at Wal-Mart"
in 1931 rutherford disbanded the editorial team that russell had stipulated in his will.
this was so that they would not interfere with rutherfords flow of marvellous spiritual gobbits.. so, from 1931 until his death (1942?
), rutherford's pen alone produced the w.t output of doctrine.. so, he must have, alone, been the fds for those years, no one else was performing the function that the noo lite says is done by the fds during those years..
You are right ,as usual, D.O.C, whatever you present to a mind-controlled JW, no matter how silly it makes their claims look, they really do not care.
They will follow these men who are using and exploiting them until they die.
I pity the poor blind fools.
what is the study of the bible?
do you go into it knowing its the direct word of god or are you... this is somewhat confusing to me, how can someone who believes it is the literal word of god critically study the bible?.
im atheist and unconvertable but i like to talk about the bible.
I am a non-theist who is certain that the Bible is not the word of God, even if a "God" did exist.
And yet, I study parts of it from time to time, I am interested in such stuff, not just Biblical.
I approach it as I would any writing from a particular time. I find out what the times and morals and beliefs and political situation was at the time the writing was probably done. I read with interest the latest scholarly views, preferably from scholars with no real axe to grind, especially as to date of writing.
So , early O.T stuff is approached very differently to N.T stuff.
With the N.T , I realise that the writings of Paul , and those of deutero-Paul, pre-date the Gospels by some years, divided by the shattering events of 70AD,
so , the post Temple world of the Gospels must be read differently from Paul or "Paul", and so on.
I do not see the Bible as a source of Truth or Wisdom to any great degree, though some truth, and some wisdom is therein, as with most scriptures, but each book, and sometimes parts of books (1st and 2nd Isaiah for example) are interesting writings of their time.
reading a thread from just a few months ago, made me realise that a lot of people who used to be regular contributors here no longer do so.. i know that people have always moved on, as the anger and hurt get less, as the wt mind-set totally disappears, we feel the need to come here less and less, but because of the intelligence, insight, wit and wisdom of these people, the board is somewhat impoverished each time one of these moves on.. this is a plea to all who post now, and some who still read but don't post, please do not leave us entirely, the contributions on here are literally life-saving for many.
it is easy to get dangerously suicidal when the whole wt pack of cards falls down for you.. please do not become a stranger to us !.
I am honoured to see a thread of mine revived.
In many ways I have moved on, but still cannot break the habit of keeping an eye on here, those great posters who have moved on completely, and no longer perhaps even read here, helped me no end, but those who are still here still do, so do not stop if you can possibly stay and keep this place as special as it has always been.
As I have posted a number of times, this place, and you great people, have been literally a life saver for me.
Slimboyfat, you simply CANNOT go, we are not exactly overun with Scottish curmudgeons ! we need you ! (you have a P.M)
I am truly glad for those who have left the WT/JW experience so far behind that they have truly moved on, may they enjoy their freedom to choose the best things in life.
Thank you all, past and present posters, I love you all.
the summer assembly was hot and sticky, it was long on rules and stingy on deep scriptures.
the speaker warned us about the online discussions of greek and hebrew, which are running ahead of the organization.
did you know there are brothers who are trying to check the accuracy of the new world translation?
Use the search button on here for particular scriptures that may interest you, you could well come up with some posts that are pertinent.
Look at poster Leolaia's past offerings on this subject, very erudite and learned, yet with the teachers ability to make complicated matters understandable to the layman, I cannot praise her enough. (you may have to look up the meaning of the odd technical term to start with )
i'm just curious as to whether any of my fellow brits ever pondered how the society can be so stupid as to insist using the us drama tapes at uk conventions rather than having them re-recorded in a british accent?.
as all of us brits know, the convention drama is a subject of subdued derision among uk publishers - and i've been to many a party or social gathering where, at some point, somebody whose had a little too much coke re-enacts a scene from a drama mockingly (typically by gesturing wildly into the air and saying "jer-ho-vah gaaard!!
" in an over-the-top american accent).. what the society clearly doesn't understand is that the dramas really lose their emotional impact with british audiences when performed in an american accent by amateurs.
"I just can't believe they are so stupid year after year "
Dear Cedars,
I know you said that with specific reference to your thread, but really, what else did you expect ? That the GB would suddenly acquire the attributes of empathy, kindness and humility, along with common sense ?
The daft old buggers are wrong year after year about everything !
temporarily, there's confusion until i get the facts straight: .
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/united-nations-association.php .
http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/default.html .
They lied about it pure and simple, and they sent aletter to the Elders telling them how to lie about it too, good that from an Organization chosen by Jesus who says he IS the truth.
written by by george h. gallup jr in 2003:.
as described in the next american spirituality, which tim jones and i wrote, the pendulum may be swinging away from what is beyond us to what is within us.
in the 1999 survey, we asked, "do you think of spirituality more in a personal and individual sense or more in terms of organized religion and church doctrine?
You have still got a long way to go to catch up with us brits, where 53% describe themselves as not religious.
I don't know how many in the U.K would describe themselves as spiritual, we tend to be quite disparaging about New Age Hippy type philosophy, and all that "finding yourself" and inward looking self centered stuff is laughed at.
But many here are finding that contemplating beauty in nature and the arts etc. or better still taking part in them, is just as rewarding as some find religion.
Such people may not describe themselves as spiritual, but I think they are.
Good luck to all who are involved in exposing the WT for what it is, this case, and the one in Australia are building a history of the WT's methods and mendacity.
