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Kendrick in good standing in Oakley Congregation ... wow !
by RubaDub in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
can anyone imagine the what the elders in his current congregation must be going through ?!.

in their ideal world, they would have df'd him once they knew there would be a trial so they could play the card "he's not one of jw's.

" but since it occurred in a different congregation and he was already punished, there is little they can currently do.. wow, imagine the buzz in the kh when the info started leaking out.
DT

I think it would be interesting to send letters to the people who live in that congregation's territory. The letter could describe the situation and comment on the fact that Jehovah's Witnesses expect their sexual predators to go door to door. It could conclude with a phone number of the hall and a request that they ask to be placed on their do not call list as a way of protesting this policy.
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Is the Borg "really" guilty in the Candace Conti case ???
by RubaDub in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
full disclosure:.

i am an active (2-4 hrs/month) 3rd generation jw hovering under the radar.

been posting here for 10 years.
DT

"But I'm still at a loss, in specifics, of what the Congregation should do when a Pedofile/Murderer/Rapist moves in. Do they read from the platform his/her rap sheet from 3 years ago, 5 years ago, 10 years ago, 20 years ago, etc ???"
That is a good question. I think it is obvious that the person shouldn't be given positions of authority or be allowed to go door to door. Should it be announced to the congregation? I think it should, but I don't know what all the legal implications are. I think there would be some legal protection for the congregation if he has been baptized and therfore agreed to live by the rules of the religion.
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Is the Borg "really" guilty in the Candace Conti case ???
by RubaDub in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
full disclosure:.

i am an active (2-4 hrs/month) 3rd generation jw hovering under the radar.

been posting here for 10 years.
DT

I think the biggest problem is that they did nothing, even though they knew Kendrick was dangerous. There were a number of things they could have done without exposing them to other legal problems. If they just did something, I think their liability would have been greatly reduced. They might have even avoided the lawsuit.
"A religion would NEVER not allow a pedo in, after all God forgives all even murders. Nice as it would be, it's not a reality."
That's part of the problem. The truth about pedophiles and the difficulty of reforming them isn't consistent with the way Jehovah's Witnesses and other religious people view the world. They think the Bible can fix these people. If they were to admit that these people will always be dangerous, it would undermine their belief system.
Most religions and pedophiles have something in common. They need external controls to prevent them from harming people. It would be nice if the Watchtower Society would volunteer to keep their children safe, but we know that the threat of serious lawsuits may be the only way to get them to make needed changes.
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Is the Borg "really" guilty in the Candace Conti case ???
by RubaDub in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
full disclosure:.

i am an active (2-4 hrs/month) 3rd generation jw hovering under the radar.

been posting here for 10 years.
DT

I think it would be appropriate to not allow known sexual predators into the Kingdom Hall. I don't think the congregation would be under any legal requirement to allow sexual predators access to children. They could still listen in on the telephone. An adult could be assigned to deliver literature to the person.
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Is the Borg "really" guilty in the Candace Conti case ???
by RubaDub in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
full disclosure:.

i am an active (2-4 hrs/month) 3rd generation jw hovering under the radar.

been posting here for 10 years.
DT

Does anybody know if they used to announce that someone was disciplined for child abuse? Or did they just say something like fornication? I guess I'm wondering if they always covered up pedophilia or if it only started when they stopped making announcements about the reasons for discipline.
It was a good thing for them to stop making announcements of sins, but it was a mistake to conceal crimes from the police and parents.
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Is the Borg "really" guilty in the Candace Conti case ???
by RubaDub in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
full disclosure:.

i am an active (2-4 hrs/month) 3rd generation jw hovering under the radar.

been posting here for 10 years.
DT

I would say that suspicions of abuse should be reported first to the police. That isn't slander and actually protects them from liability. That would take care of many problems. Also sexual preadators shouldn't be allowed in the door to door ministry.
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Cognitive Dissonance Can Be A Good Thing!
by DT in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
many of us have been disheartened by all the comments about the candace conti case from apologists that indicate cognitive dissonance at work.

some of them even seem to show a shocking lack of empathy.. this might be seen as evidence that even the most shocking revelations will have little or no effect on faithful witnesses.. i disagree.

i think this case is having a profound effect.. i think many witnesses have been under the impression that this kind of judgement is impossible.
DT

I agree about those who condemn Candace Conti for seeking justice. I would rather see them stay in the Watchtower organization. They deserve each other.
I'm sure that kind of talk even bothers some Witnesses. They are the ones that may eventually take a stand and leave.
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Watchtower Society's Balls On The Chopping Block
by mind blown in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the wts is like a little rotten brat that has had it's way for many years now.

yes, it's shocking when you've gotten away with your old play book, only to find out the way the law really works when tested to full measure.

the conti case proves how the law views the wts handling of pedophiles, as well as jury, and jugde.
DT

They are faced with enough legal liability that bankruptcy is a possibility. They should admit their mistakes and make needed changes. The problem is that this could result in a mass exodus. I guess it depends on whether the leaders are more interested in money or power.
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Really watchtower.org?
by baltar447 in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
this is shameless pr, the front page featured article is:.

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your child and the internetyou do not have to become an expert at all things electronic in order to keep your child safe..
DT

They want to keep people off the Internet, not because they might meet someone dangerous, but because they might find out that their own Kingdon Hall isn't safe.
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Candace Conti video on YouTube - let's send it viral!
by cedars in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
i've uploaded a video that discusses the dramatic jury verdict regarding the abuse suffered by candace conti, of which you are all aware.

if you're not yet familiar with the story for any reason, please check out my blog article on the link below.... http://jwsurvey.org/general-information/the-watchtower-punished-society-loses-legal-battle-over-child-abuse-case.

john hoyle suggested i get a youtube video out fairly quickly so that we can spread the message more effectively online.
DT

I like the comments explaining the glitches. It adds a nice human element to the video and discussion. Thanks again for putting out this excellent video.