As I have written elsewhere the JWs have all the guilt of Catholicism without any of the Beautiful Bells and Whistles, all the paranoia and tribalism of Judaism without any of the respect for dissent, all the intolerance of Islam without any of the valor. They represent everything wrong with Abrahamic religion, which is why they can claim to be persecuted. All the other Abrahamic religions see their own flaws magnified in the Jehovah's Witnesses, which is why for an ex-JW giving up on God completely after the JWs is the usual reaction.
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The Bible Gods Word or Mans
by azor ini remember studying this book years ago and how it impacted my belief system.
i no longer believe the bible is god's word.
however i do have a couple of lingering questions on this subject.
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Article: Five JWs Deported from Bali for Conducting Door-to-Door Religious Ministry
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.balidiscovery.com/messages/message.asp?id=11719.
dismantling the watchtower .
five jehovah witnesses deported from bali for conducting door-to-door religious ministry .
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Natural Selection in Religions
by Victor ini recently developed an interest in examining the origins of religion.
so what i've gathered so far is this.
the human mind needs to create an explanation and meaning.
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There's a lot of financial security in joining moribund cults, just look at Father Divine. They don't have enough followers to take care of their real estate. I hope that's where the JWs are in 100 years.
Find a celibacy cult with lots of real estate and no chance of mass suicide. There are the Shakers, the House of David in Benton Harbor Michigan, can anyone name any others?
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Active posters: What education have you had, what degrees do you possess?
by EndofMysteries infrom so many posts and conversations on here, you'd think over 1/2 the posters here possess doctorates in theology, physics, biology, etc.
i'm curious aside from the books and research people have done here, what degrees they have.
to start, i just got an aa and going straight through full time to an mba.
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Associates Degree in Liberal Arts with emphasis on Spanish and English
Fluent in Spanish, Portuguese, French, Bourbonais Creole, Haitian Creole, Jamaican Creole, and Esperanto
Conversant in Amharic, Hebrew, Arabic, Maltese, Japanese, and Fijian
Can read Enough Greek to cross reference the New Testament.
I say my prayers in Gi'iz (Classical Ethiopic) so as not to offend my JW better half with the actual meaning.
Gave up on pursuing a Linguistics Degree after failing Statistics 3 times. Dropped out of Legal Interpreting school.
If I were single I would probably be teaching ESL in an unstable part of the world just for the stripes.
I think my wife at first thought she could bring me around to the Troof, because I was caught between two doctrines when we met, but I could see through the BS at first glance. I told her to bring me a brother who knew the Bible in its original languages and the had read the Bible and the Apocryphal books so that he could go over doctrine with me and refute the Apocryphal books on a book by book basis. Of course no one outside of the Bethel has the time or the resources to do something like that and I have been a thorn in her side ever since. Sorry for digressing.
Orphan Crow: Anyone can get a degree in Theology up to a Doctorate of Divinity from the University of South Africa, pay in Rands instead of dollars, and it is recognised worldwide as University of South Africa started out as a distance college of Cambridge University.
I remember my anthropology professor reluctantly informing us that Jane Goodall only had a foundation/associates degree in anthropology. That made me think about all the dying languages that need saving. I took a Certified Nurses' Aid course but failed the red cross exam. I would still like to perhaps work with elderly speakers of dying languages to record them before they are lost to humanity.
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The Real History of Mormonism - Outstanding Lecture
by cofty inif you think the mormon church is off-the-scale crazy you probably don't know the half of it.. the historical information in this talk by david fitzgerald is fascinating.
the good news is that, just like the watchtower, their growth is being stunted by the internet.. grab a coffee and be amazed at just how gullible millions of people can be.. lucy harris has become my new heroine.
don't miss the section from 8:50.
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Memorial talk wt escape clause
by prologos in" --only those in the kingdom covenant were served the bread & wine by jesus--" ---false!
this phrase switches from the forgiveness of sin part to the exclusive anointed club section of the memorial talk, and it is false because: the kingdom covenant was done after the passover was done.
and the promise of thrones and judging israel in math 19:28 was not a covenant but an assurance.
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Aha! Dan is left out in Rev. 7 because the line of thinking at the time was that the Antichrist would come from the tribe of Dan (read the apocryphal Book of the Bee someday) But as long as a Danite knows that it is the East Gate he must enter its all good. There is room for all who love God, Zoroastrians, you name it, for the great crowd is so great that NO MAN CAN NUMBER. So it can't be just the Jehovah's Witnesses because they are always doing a census of their membership, as if a census can number the heart! As for the Danite Antichrist, personally I think that the Israelis and the Palestinians will try to comprimise and prop up a King from among the tiny Samaritan community, but that he will turn out to be wicked. -
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Happy Easter!
by J-DUBBED inyes a big happy easter to all the ex j-dubs........and to all those that want to be ex j-dubs.
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Christ is risen!
http://www.youtube/watch?v=gtxx6tGuX5A
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The Real History of Mormonism - Outstanding Lecture
by cofty inif you think the mormon church is off-the-scale crazy you probably don't know the half of it.. the historical information in this talk by david fitzgerald is fascinating.
the good news is that, just like the watchtower, their growth is being stunted by the internet.. grab a coffee and be amazed at just how gullible millions of people can be.. lucy harris has become my new heroine.
don't miss the section from 8:50.
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Mormons have crazy beliefs about the past. But they don't have crazy ideas about the future, not like the JWs. Pick your poison. -
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Memorial talk wt escape clause
by prologos in" --only those in the kingdom covenant were served the bread & wine by jesus--" ---false!
this phrase switches from the forgiveness of sin part to the exclusive anointed club section of the memorial talk, and it is false because: the kingdom covenant was done after the passover was done.
and the promise of thrones and judging israel in math 19:28 was not a covenant but an assurance.
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Look at the moon you were born under
April-Reuben
May-Simeon
June-Levi
July-Judah
August-Issachar
September-Zebulon
October-Dan
November-Gad
December-Asher
January-Naphali
February-Joseph
March-Benjamin
Accept that and see yourself as Israel...No need for the eight empty suits just to belong to the Great Crowd. The Great Crowd are all people who love God of all religions.
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More Anointed Join the ranks
by paulmolark inwhen i was an elder we had a sister who was known for providing oral pleasures to some people in the congo.
i was on the committee.
this girl for some odd reason was put on public reproof 4 times for the same thing.
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King David danced till his clothes came off and ate the shewbread. Who are we to judge? She sounds too good to be a JW. I'm glad to know that Jehovah has placed free spirits in the organization so that maybe one day it actually is his, instead of it being eight empty suits being worshipped.