a disfellowshipped friend of mine was recently kindly informed about this by her jw mother , i presume they are meant to eat the billions od dead bodies , as my friend is a big lady she informed her mother they would get a good feed off her!!! i actually think saying that to your child is a form of child abuse no matter how old they are and think it so sad that small children would be sat at meetings listening to that information and feeling so scared , i wonder if that information is actually accurate and where it comes from , does anyone know ?
looloo
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vultures are the only breed of bird on the increase ready for armageddon!
by looloo ina disfellowshipped friend of mine was recently kindly informed about this by her jw mother , i presume they are meant to eat the billions od dead bodies , as my friend is a big lady she informed her mother they would get a good feed off her!!!
i actually think saying that to your child is a form of child abuse no matter how old they are and think it so sad that small children would be sat at meetings listening to that information and feeling so scared , i wonder if that information is actually accurate and where it comes from , does anyone know ?.
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if a child abuser wants to get reinstated
by looloo inwould he have to admit to all he was accused of but denied in court concerning various witnesses , acouple of them are jws so could they possibly get them all together in the same room ?
the two victims are now in thier 30s and if so couldnt it open up a can of worms for them if he admitted to the offences that were more serious than the ones he had admitted to and got a prison sentence for ?
or do you think they would just tell him not to bother coming back because of the shame he has brought on the congregation , surely he wouldnt be allowed back if he did not admit all he had done , does anyone know ?.
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looloo
thats terrible , thats what they did to him 20 years ago and then the rest is history ! is that the reason you left or did it just help you on your way ? how are the girls now ? x
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if a child abuser wants to get reinstated
by looloo inwould he have to admit to all he was accused of but denied in court concerning various witnesses , acouple of them are jws so could they possibly get them all together in the same room ?
the two victims are now in thier 30s and if so couldnt it open up a can of worms for them if he admitted to the offences that were more serious than the ones he had admitted to and got a prison sentence for ?
or do you think they would just tell him not to bother coming back because of the shame he has brought on the congregation , surely he wouldnt be allowed back if he did not admit all he had done , does anyone know ?.
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looloo
would he have to admit to all he was accused of but denied in court concerning various witnesses , acouple of them are jws so could they possibly get them all together in the same room ? the two victims are now in thier 30s and if so couldnt it open up a can of worms for them if he admitted to the offences that were more serious than the ones he had admitted to and got a prison sentence for ? or do you think they would just tell him not to bother coming back because of the shame he has brought on the congregation , surely he wouldnt be allowed back if he did not admit all he had done , does anyone know ?
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why do you think child molester was so calm in my presence?
by looloo inin answer to the last comment on my previous topic, i decided to approach him at his work so there would be witnesses (in case he got aggressive , which i know he can be ) i needed some form of closure as he never actually went to prison for what he did to my daughter but other victims "minor" charges that he admitted to (he had no choice but to admit to them as his wife already knew about 2 of them and the elders knew about 1 )but untill i had reported him to the police after my daughters disclosure nobody had ever reported him before , had they done so my child would not have been raped and much worse !
any way considering he has told everyone that i got my daughter to make up stories about him that has got him a prison sentence and put on the sex offenders registar for life he was very calm when i appeared with no notice and even greeted me by my name , he tried to convince me my child made it all up and it was "all in her head" bla bla which you would think would make me want to hit him but i felt detached as though it was not really happening , i had waited years for that moment and didnt want to blow it by being violent and perhaps arrested , i told him what i thought of him very calmly and he even admitted something to me that he had denied to the police ,and the reason why my childs charges were dropped !
his answer to me about the way he had led his life was that he is an imperfect man with sinful desires !!!!!!!
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looloo
your right and i dont waste my time hating all hiss supporters anymore like i used to and my daughter has her 1st boyfriend now and hes so nice and caring to her i think she may be able to move on now so i can also thanks
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why do you think child molester was so calm in my presence?
by looloo inin answer to the last comment on my previous topic, i decided to approach him at his work so there would be witnesses (in case he got aggressive , which i know he can be ) i needed some form of closure as he never actually went to prison for what he did to my daughter but other victims "minor" charges that he admitted to (he had no choice but to admit to them as his wife already knew about 2 of them and the elders knew about 1 )but untill i had reported him to the police after my daughters disclosure nobody had ever reported him before , had they done so my child would not have been raped and much worse !
any way considering he has told everyone that i got my daughter to make up stories about him that has got him a prison sentence and put on the sex offenders registar for life he was very calm when i appeared with no notice and even greeted me by my name , he tried to convince me my child made it all up and it was "all in her head" bla bla which you would think would make me want to hit him but i felt detached as though it was not really happening , i had waited years for that moment and didnt want to blow it by being violent and perhaps arrested , i told him what i thought of him very calmly and he even admitted something to me that he had denied to the police ,and the reason why my childs charges were dropped !
his answer to me about the way he had led his life was that he is an imperfect man with sinful desires !!!!!!!
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looloo
you just summed him up wobble and it took me being face to face with him to realise that as i couldnt comprehend how someone can lie so well before that .
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why do you think child molester was so calm in my presence?
by looloo inin answer to the last comment on my previous topic, i decided to approach him at his work so there would be witnesses (in case he got aggressive , which i know he can be ) i needed some form of closure as he never actually went to prison for what he did to my daughter but other victims "minor" charges that he admitted to (he had no choice but to admit to them as his wife already knew about 2 of them and the elders knew about 1 )but untill i had reported him to the police after my daughters disclosure nobody had ever reported him before , had they done so my child would not have been raped and much worse !
any way considering he has told everyone that i got my daughter to make up stories about him that has got him a prison sentence and put on the sex offenders registar for life he was very calm when i appeared with no notice and even greeted me by my name , he tried to convince me my child made it all up and it was "all in her head" bla bla which you would think would make me want to hit him but i felt detached as though it was not really happening , i had waited years for that moment and didnt want to blow it by being violent and perhaps arrested , i told him what i thought of him very calmly and he even admitted something to me that he had denied to the police ,and the reason why my childs charges were dropped !
his answer to me about the way he had led his life was that he is an imperfect man with sinful desires !!!!!!!
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this may sound strange but yes his boss and fellow male workers know he has served time in prison for kissing children and touching breasts of 14 year old friends of his daughters as he did admit those charges but denied raping , oral sex etc and the fact that the victims had said they were 11 , 12 and 13 yrs at the time of abuse . he has convinced his boss that the victims and mothers all told lies about him ! despite admitting the things he got 3 years for his boss actually believes him !!!!! and has a teenage daughter (who i had been worried about which is why i reported it to the police as my child was too scared to get the police involved) his boss was in court supporting him at the sentencing and was scoffing at my child crying and victim impact statements that were read out , i presume that the others believe him also despite knowing he has done it before ! i dont know about if children go there his boss dosnt think he has done anything to be ashamed of and should hold his head high ! its ignorant morons like that that piss me off just as much as the bastard that did it ! and as for putting a poster up on the door somebody already did that and i got the blame according to his family members (wasnt me but good idea though)t
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why do elders ask such personal questions when deciding whether to disfellowship
by looloo ina friend of mine was asked if she had become "moist" along with had penetration actually taken place , why is that necassary to ask along with did you fondle breasts etc surley they could keep it short and ask if the "deed " was done , yes or no ?
why all the other questions ?
she was only 19 with no experiance of life and sex and was so embaressed she could not answer and was disfellowshipped for being "cocky" any ideas ?.
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a friend of mine was asked if she had become "moist" along with had penetration actually taken place , why is that necassary to ask along with did you fondle breasts etc surley they could keep it short and ask if the "deed " was done , yes or no ? why all the other questions ? she was only 19 with no experiance of life and sex and was so embaressed she could not answer and was disfellowshipped for being "cocky" any ideas ?
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why do you think child molester was so calm in my presence?
by looloo inin answer to the last comment on my previous topic, i decided to approach him at his work so there would be witnesses (in case he got aggressive , which i know he can be ) i needed some form of closure as he never actually went to prison for what he did to my daughter but other victims "minor" charges that he admitted to (he had no choice but to admit to them as his wife already knew about 2 of them and the elders knew about 1 )but untill i had reported him to the police after my daughters disclosure nobody had ever reported him before , had they done so my child would not have been raped and much worse !
any way considering he has told everyone that i got my daughter to make up stories about him that has got him a prison sentence and put on the sex offenders registar for life he was very calm when i appeared with no notice and even greeted me by my name , he tried to convince me my child made it all up and it was "all in her head" bla bla which you would think would make me want to hit him but i felt detached as though it was not really happening , i had waited years for that moment and didnt want to blow it by being violent and perhaps arrested , i told him what i thought of him very calmly and he even admitted something to me that he had denied to the police ,and the reason why my childs charges were dropped !
his answer to me about the way he had led his life was that he is an imperfect man with sinful desires !!!!!!!
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looloo
in answer to the last comment on my previous topic, i decided to approach him at his work so there would be witnesses (in case he got aggressive , which i know he can be ) i needed some form of closure as he never actually went to prison for what he did to my daughter but other victims "minor" charges that he admitted to (he had no choice but to admit to them as his wife already knew about 2 of them and the elders knew about 1 )but untill i had reported him to the police after my daughters disclosure nobody had ever reported him before , had they done so my child would not have been raped and much worse ! any way considering he has told everyone that i got my daughter to make up stories about him that has got him a prison sentence and put on the sex offenders registar for life he was very calm when i appeared with no notice and even greeted me by my name , he tried to convince me my child made it all up and it was "all in her head" bla bla which you would think would make me want to hit him but i felt detached as though it was not really happening , i had waited years for that moment and didnt want to blow it by being violent and perhaps arrested , i told him what i thought of him very calmly and he even admitted something to me that he had denied to the police ,and the reason why my childs charges were dropped ! his answer to me about the way he had led his life was that he is an imperfect man with sinful desires !!!!!!! i looked into his eyes constantly while talking to him and he very convincingly told me that not only had i and my child told lies about him but the other 3 women involved had also lied, i dont even know one of them ! there was not a glimmer of a concience until i asked him a question regarding my daughter and he shouted at me that he cared about her !!!!! why should he care if she had made all those stories up about him , his wife is taking him back . he swore to jehovah that his conscience was clear at that point i realised what a pointless waste of time it was trying to get him to admit it and walked away with my clear conscience .
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My experience with the Bethel Legal Dept. regarding a Ministerial Servant molesting a boy
by BonaFide inthe experience that follows contains some details that some might find graphic.
so be warned.. the body of elders received word that an unmarried ministerial servant, age 20, had been seen fondling a younger male bible student, age 14. the ministerial servant himself had been studying with the boy.
the ministerial servant was a quiet, timid brother.
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looloo
that mother needs arresting , what a freak !!!!!!!
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Time to tell my whole story.
by LouBelle ini've decided that i'm going to write about my life as a jw and how i broke free of the organisation.
i've approached a magazine with regards to doing a monthly story on my walk to freedom.
this is in no way meant as payback, but rather as a means to educate people about this faith and what it does to those trapped in.. i may be calling on some of you (if you don't mind) for clarification on doctrine as i have become a bit fuzzy as to what is what.
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looloo
good for you , i would do it for free , a counsellor recentley told me i should approach the papers and a well known documentry programme about my story , im too scared though , could write a book annon though (with a ghost writer) does your magazine print in other countries ?