Posts by Fadeout

Press TV: Senator Obama talks about change but of course he has courting Wall Street as well as the Israeli lobby - do you see any prospect of change with him as president?

Gore Vidal: Not really. I don't doubt his good faith, just as I do not doubt the bad faith of Cheney and Bush.

It seems odd that Vidal ascribes vast evil powers to Bush/Cheney, but no power to Obama as president... while at the same not not questioning Obama's good faith, and quickly changing the subject back to the evilness of Bush/Cheney.

If the presidency goes to whomever is strong and wily enough to steal it, and Obama wins the presidency, there is an obvious logical disconnect for those who believe that Obama is different, more noble, etc. than his predecessors.

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The USA is not a Republic Any Longer

by sammielee24 in

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this according to an interview with gore vidal.

i thought this bit of his interview was a pretty decent assessment.

sammieswife.. 'the us is not a republic anymore' .

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So would that be neolib propaganda?

Or does it not rise to that level until we're talking about reptilians in human clothing?

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Does anyone remember the pic about the apostates at end of 1000 yrs.....

by chrisjoel in

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it was a picture about those who would take a final stand against the new world order like a camp outside of the true worshippers.

so satan would be let loose for a little period and then anyone who agrees with satan ...ends up looking like keith richards with earings and is deserving of death.. anyone remember the pic?.

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Them apostates are wielding some scary-looking batons. They could put an eye out.

You'd think that the tall guy would have been fingered as an apostate long before this, when he first started to grow the goatee. Everyone knows that in the New System, facial hair only grows on murmurers.

The short mongoloid in front of him has taken off his tie and used it as a headband. He looks like he used to be middle management back in the old system.

The guy in the lower left corner, I'm pretty sure, is stoned and supports the concept of "rock".

Note that the head at the bottom middle of the page is not looking the same way as the mob, not looking to attack. Rather, he is eying up the dude in the red sweater. So keep in mind, you don't have to be an opposer to be destroyed... if 1,000 years hasn't cured you of your gayness you're just as doomed.

Can we really blame the mob for turning violent after 1,000 years of being forced to wear collared shirts?

And I never saw this before, but what is with the creepy ghostly face in between two of the dragon heads?

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Few Jehovah's Witnesses bother to GRASP THEIR OWN THEOLOGY!!!

by Terry in

keep this one fact in mind about jehovah's witnesses.

they exist in three parts throughout their history.. 1. honest bible students attracted to the gimmicks of russell (charts, graphs, chronologies, pyramid inches, etc.

) expected the end of the world to come and they wanted to know more.. 2.contrarian hard heads under rutherford wanted to prove everybody was wrong about everything except themselves.

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I'd go a step further and say that few Witnesses are aware of (a) the meaning of the word "theology," and (b) the fact that they have one.

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A@G appears in new WT Comments video

by Awakened at Gilead in

hi everyone..... v just posted about this, but since i am interviewed in the video i wanted to start my own thread to get the word out... let me know what you think... my real name and pic are in the video, along with some of my gilead experiences..... lance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enkkm_aa_j4.

the link to this vid is:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enkkm_aa_j4 in case you want to comment there..... .

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Thanks Lance, looking forward to Part 2.

You came off as very non-apostatish, that is, I didn't detect any foaming at the mouth or hear demonic echoes while you were speaking.

Really, you didn't say much that any witness could object to. Which is good.

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The Bible Dinosaur

by Devilsnok in

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anyone remember the picture of the dinosaur that used to be on the inside cover of the green bible?

has anyone got a scan / picture of it please?.

matt.

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As late as 1973 the WT allowed for the possibility that man and dinosaurs coexisted until the Flood.

July 15 1973 QFR:

When did God create dinosaurs, and when did they become extinct?—U.S.A.The Bible does not provide specific answers to this question. According to the Genesis account, animals were created during the fifth and sixth creative periods or ‘days.’ If the Hebrew expression translated "great sea monsters" [Hebrew, tan·ni·nim´] includes dinosaurs, which often inhabited swampy, watery areas, this would mean that dinosaurs were created on the fifth "day." (Gen. 1:21) We do not know whether they continued to exist until man was created (toward the close of the sixth "day"). At the very latest it seems likely that they must have disappeared off the earth at the time of the flood of Noah’s day. Dinosaurs were reptiles, and some kinds of dinosaurs bear strong resemblance structurally and otherwise to lizards (sauros is, in fact, the Greek word for "lizard"; saura in Leviticus 11:29, LXX). Not all types of dinosaurs were of such gigantic size. Hence, even if they had survived till the Flood, this would not have required taking pairs of the mammoth varieties into the ark. Other smaller members of the particular family or "kind" to which these belonged would have sufficed to fulfill the divine command.—Gen. 6:19, 20; 7:14.
Some of the older translations of the Bible at times use the word "dragons" to translate the Hebrew tan·ni·nim´ ("sea monsters," NW). (Ps. 74:13; 148:7; Isa. 27:1, AuthorizedVersion) The term "dragon" (Greek, dra´kon) is found in the Christian Greek Scriptures. It has been suggested as possible that, rather than having a purely mythical source, this expression may originally have been applied to enormous creatures such as the dinosaurs, taking on mythical tones only after these mammoth creatures had long disappeared. Interestingly, many of the mythical depictions of the "dragon" strongly resemble certain types within the family of huge reptilian creatures that includes the dinosaur.

Note that the WT specifically allows for the coexistence of the enormous dinosaurs with man, to account for the dragon myths.

The insertion of a dinosaur on the map alongside ancient humans, to me, is a statement of doctrine, one which flew in the face of the hated scientific community and affirmed their own funky belief.