Posts by jacethespace

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The bibles missing books

by jacethespace in

throughout the bible it constantly points to books which havent been included in the codex.for example it says "see the book of enoch" or "enoch prophesied of these..".and "see the book of jasher" as well as others.. the watchtower has always said that even though babylon the great isnt gods organization that they happened to be guided by gods holy spirit when they decided which books to cananize and which to not.. only thing is thinking about it one thing springs to mind!.

if they are written about in scripture under the israelites and under the christians of the 1st century then they were of course using these "missing books" back then anyway.. so the watchtowers stance on this is flawed.. does anyone else have anymore information on these missing books or the watchtowers info on this?.

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jacethespace

Throughout the bible it constantly points to books which havent been included in the codex.For example it says "see the book of Enoch" or "Enoch prophesied of these..".And "see the book of Jasher" as well as others.

The watchtower has always said that even though Babylon the great isnt gods organization that they happened to be guided by gods holy spirit when they decided which books to cananize and which to not.

Only thing is thinking about it one thing springs to mind!

If they are written about in scripture under the israelites and under the Christians of the 1st century then they were of course using these "missing books" back then anyway.

So the watchtowers stance on this is flawed.

Does anyone else have anymore information on these missing books or the watchtowers info on this?

Jacethespace.

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The biggest scandals in your local congs

by jacethespace in

what was the biggest scandals[or incidents] in your own congregations that got you starting to doubt whether the watchtower was what it made itself out to be?.

one the things for me was the attitude of the people in the congregation after i had took some time off meetings and then returned again.i quickly realized there was no unconditional love only conditional love.also when the watchtower had a letter read out from the platform warning us to not watch the bbc panarama documentary on the watchtowers child abuse problems.and everyone just avoided watching it and said that it was "satan"trying to use anything to get us out the "truth".

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jacethespace

It was a while ago now when i decided to watch the above link for the panarama docu on jws.Couldnt believe what these people had gone through and how the watchtower and members could be so unfair and just ignore these people who were suffering.And just put it down to the devil , its completly the opposite of what jws make out they stand for and if there is a god i dont think he would overlook these abuses like jws do.

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The biggest scandals in your local congs

by jacethespace in

what was the biggest scandals[or incidents] in your own congregations that got you starting to doubt whether the watchtower was what it made itself out to be?.

one the things for me was the attitude of the people in the congregation after i had took some time off meetings and then returned again.i quickly realized there was no unconditional love only conditional love.also when the watchtower had a letter read out from the platform warning us to not watch the bbc panarama documentary on the watchtowers child abuse problems.and everyone just avoided watching it and said that it was "satan"trying to use anything to get us out the "truth".

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jacethespace

Heres the bbc link for the news report and the video

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/live_forums/2124808.stm

click the 56k sign and it will open in your own computers player.Although im not sure whether the bbc will run in america.

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The biggest scandals in your local congs

by jacethespace in

what was the biggest scandals[or incidents] in your own congregations that got you starting to doubt whether the watchtower was what it made itself out to be?.

one the things for me was the attitude of the people in the congregation after i had took some time off meetings and then returned again.i quickly realized there was no unconditional love only conditional love.also when the watchtower had a letter read out from the platform warning us to not watch the bbc panarama documentary on the watchtowers child abuse problems.and everyone just avoided watching it and said that it was "satan"trying to use anything to get us out the "truth".

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jacethespace

What was the biggest scandals[or incidents] in your own congregations that got you starting to doubt whether the watchtower was what it made itself out to be?

One the things for me was the attitude of the people in the congregation after i had took some time off meetings and then returned again.I quickly realized there was no unconditional love only conditional love.Also when the watchtower had a letter read out from the platform warning us to not watch the bbc panarama documentary on the watchtowers child abuse problems.And everyone just avoided watching it and said that it was "satan"trying to use anything to get us out the "truth".

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JFK Assasination....I realize now there was no Conspiracy Jack Ruby was mentally ill.

by Witness 007 in

just afew points....jack ruby who killed ozwald before a trial is often shown on tape talking about..."you'll never know the real truth..." etc.

but on the net i found the whole transcript.

jack ruby was very mentally ill. he goes on to explain that these "forces at work" are the john birch society, anti-communist anti-jew club.

jacethespace

What about the asassins of Robert Kennedy and his other family members were they also all mentally ill.Geezz the Kennedys were the most unlucky family ever.

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Global Currency, what is the JW stance on it?

by A-Team in

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if this is actually made, then i guess it will raise some eyebrows.

yes, this is the coin that was shown off at the g8 summit..

jacethespace

Sorry Proner but thats not true heres the news report about the russian president showing off the global currency coin and this was also spoken about just after the g20 summit in london by the head of the imf.He said we will have a global currency http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/5796892/Russian-President-Dmitry-Medvedev-pulls-new-world-currency-from-his-pocket.html.

The pope has also this past week called for a "global authority" and to give the united nations "real teeth" to take over the financial and political world

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8137849.stm

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A reminder for JW parents, including me and mine.

by Black Sheep in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvjscga5vbc.

jacethespace

Being a big Michael jackson fan when i was younger after he died i downloaded all his albums and even songs from his Jackson 5 days onto cd and listened to them and couldnt help but notice a lot of stuff he sings in his songs is related to the influence the watchtower society must have had on him.

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Seeing old watchtower aquantances

by jacethespace in

i havent posted here for quite a while,since jwd changed websites in fact, but had to relate this.. a few days ago i bumped into some of my local congregation members i havent saw for quite a while.and said hello to the guy i knew and chatted with him while his wife was in the local store.first thing i noticed was the attitude that i had gotten away from and in fact was one of the reasons why i decided to leave.he told me that the org was moving forward and guiding them better than ever and said that it would be better if i didnt come back because i wouldnt beable to keep up with the progress of the org.although he said he didnt want me to go down with the world.his arrogance was just wrong.i told him the bible says that every man will be found a liar and he said it depends how you interpret it.his wife came out the shop and was much more pleasant and then another member i hadnt saw for a while came over to them [ i think they had been out on a boasting session] and i said hello.however she said hi but practically ignored me.the whole experience was just so sureall that i couldnt help but think that it encourages people not to listen to them and left quite angry.baring in mind i live next door to an elder and see him often.some seem to look down on you when you stop going and others just dont bother talking to you as i they are above everyone else.. jacethespace.

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jacethespace

I havent posted here for quite a while,since jwd changed websites in fact, but had to relate this.

A few days ago i bumped into some of my local congregation members i havent saw for quite a while.And said hello to The guy i knew and chatted with him while his wife was in the local store.First thing i noticed was the attitude that i had gotten away from and in fact was one of the reasons why i decided to leave.He told me that the org was moving forward and guiding them better than ever and said that it would be better if i didnt come back because i wouldnt beable to keep up with the progress of the org.Although he said he didnt want me to go down with the world.His arrogance was just wrong.I told him the bible says that every man will be found a liar and he said it depends how you interpret it.His wife came out the shop and was much more pleasant and then another member i hadnt saw for a while came over to them [ i think they had been out on a boasting session] and i said hello.However she said hi but practically ignored me.The whole experience was just so sureall that i couldnt help but think that it encourages people not to listen to them and left quite angry.Baring in mind i live next door to an elder and see him often.Some seem to look down on you when you stop going and others just dont bother talking to you as i they are above everyone else.

Jacethespace.

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Inauguration Bible Verse for Mr. Obama

by cameo-d in

traditionally, during the inauguration the bible is opened to a "meaningful" verse of scripture chosen by the pres.-elect.. what scripture would you like to see mr. obama swear upon?.

do you think he should be sworn in using a bible, with all it's mistranslations, additions of the divine right of kings, and messages of the destroyer god?

when swearing on a bible, is there an implied allegiance to the catholic church since the papacy had all the authority to chose the canons "allowed" in the bible?.

jacethespace

Its been reported in the news he will be sworn in on Abraham Lincolns bible.

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Those flying saucers

by jacethespace in

are the american authorities covering up what they know about ufos.and perhaps the existence of other beings.. researching lately old newspapers on the net i came across a lot of material reporting sightings of ufos all starting in or around 1947 and all in america.some crashed some openly landed in a park and pictures were took.and america created and expermented with disc shaped craft such as the famous avro car.but they denied that they continued with the projects and that ufo sightings had anything to do with them.here is some articled :.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=xa4laaaaibaj&sjid=hvudaaaaibaj&pg=2161,2264834.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=xfqkaaaaibaj&sjid=d1adaaaaibaj&pg=5246,4247125&dq=flying+disc.

jacethespace

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=XfQKAAAAIBAJ&sjid=D1ADAAAAIBAJ&pg=5246,4247125&dq=flying+disc