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  Why Is The Governing Body Worshipped In The Watchtower All The Time?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  short answer:.

  wt writers are all taking turns kissing the governing body's ass.. long answer:.

  if your'e a writer at bethel and you see brother kiss ass write this article about such and such and he always manages to throw in a few kiss ass lines about the fd&s.

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  MissingLink

  Standard cult procedure: Have a leader (or group) who can do no wrong. They are the one path to "god", and therefore have absolute authority.
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  The Probabilty of there being an Intelligent Designer

  by cantleave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been thinking a great deal about where i stand at this moment in time in terms of a belief in a creator verses a belief in an evolutionary process.

  i think the best way to describe it is an exploratory path.

  i look at what is around me and i acknowledge it is remarkable.

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  MissingLink

  MissingLink:

  Sylvia, are you saying that "the devil" is responsible for our universe not being "like a finely tuned clock" that we were taught to believe it is?

  Sylvia:

  I'm saying I believe just that; the Evil One is out to wreak havoc on God's creation

  That makes NO sense at all. You're saying "the devil" is responsible for messing up god's finely tuned universe and crashing galaxies into each other and creating rocks that crash into earth. Those galaxies colliding that we're seeing happened MILLIONS of years ago. It's not something "the devil" could have done when he confronted god 6 thousand years ago and had a hissy fit pushing galaxies around. Put on your thinking cap woman.

  And if "the devil" DID push the galaxies around like that millions of years ago - is your god such a pussy that he couldn't repair the damage?
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  The Probabilty of there being an Intelligent Designer

  by cantleave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been thinking a great deal about where i stand at this moment in time in terms of a belief in a creator verses a belief in an evolutionary process.

  i think the best way to describe it is an exploratory path.

  i look at what is around me and i acknowledge it is remarkable.

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  MissingLink

  Sylvia, are you saying that "the devil" is responsible for our universe not being "like a finely tuned clock" that we were taught to believe it is?

  It's not just the odd rock hitting the Earth now and then, entire Galaxies collide with each other (including ours in a few million years or so).

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXy3B2K47Qg

  If there is a creator, he/she did a pretty crappy job.
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  "They (WT) took me out of context", Gail Bethea-Jackson video

  by Fatfreek in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this is too important to bury within an old thread.

  that thread hashed over several items of interest which you may want to read by way of a refresher: .

  is gail bethea-jackson truly a doctor as the watchtower site claims?

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  MissingLink

  You can download the video and the archived official WT page containing it here:

  http://www.sendspace.com/file/b8dof5
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  Religious people are funny

  by sinis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ... how you can take a book written centurys ago, and vague at that, and try to decern what the writers "really" meant and how the doomsday prophecys "really" indicated our times.

  doesn't feel like your chasing your tail?

  why not, eat and drink for tomorrow you may die?

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  ... how you can take a book written centurys ago, and vague at that, and try to decern what the writers "really" meant and how the doomsday prophecys "really" indicated our times.

  What I find funny about this is that EVERY generation since those things were originally written has managed to twist the verses so that it seems that THEIR generation is the one that all of history has been leading up to. And they NEVER LEARN!! Faith trumps thought every time with those nimrods.
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  Do you use natural products?

  by asilentone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  soaps?

  shampoo?

  deodorant?

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  MissingLink

  I only use supernatural products.
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  Why would the WTS use quotes from Francis Hitching?

  by cantleave in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hitching is also a paranormalist, an advocate of psychic evolution.... [hitching's book] earth magic is a wild, extremely entertaining and thoroughly psychic interpretation of megalithic structures.... hitching also includes in his scheme cosmic cataclysms, atlantis, pyramidology, dowsing, esp, miraculous healing, and astrology.

  creation/evolution newsletter, 7, no.

  5, pp.

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  MissingLink

  Because they never thought any of their sheeple would bother to double-check their sources. And at the time this was written (before the internet), it took quite a bit of time and effort to verify these things. And dubs don't have free time.

  They put Hitching forward as a scientist or expert on evolution, and 99.9% of the dubs just accept it. It was quite shocking to me when I first checked him out when trying to verify the creation book. This was a big first step on my exit.
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  Nine year old baptized

  by EmptyInside in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this weekend at the circuit assembly, (i stayed home, thank goodness), i heard a nine year -old girl was baptized.

  and she seems a bit mature for her age, but hardly mature enough,in my opinion, to make such a choice on her own.

  it seems to be a trend in our circuit right now.

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  MissingLink

  More references of where this sort of thing is promoted:

  *** w02 5/1 p. 28 Implanting Love for Jehovah in Our Children’s Hearts ***

  We were touched when Hans Werner got baptized at the age of ten.

  *** w95 2/15 p. 24 Dominican Republic—Still Open to Discovery ***

  For example, Tamar and her sister Keila were both baptized at the age of 10 and entered the full-time pioneer ministry by 11.

  *** Watchtower 1992 March 1 p.27 ***

  “In the summer of 1946, I was baptized at the international convention in Cleveland, Ohio. Although I was only six years of age, I was determined to fulfill my dedication to Jehovah. That summer I served as a pioneer for the first time.”

  *** g71 4/8 p. 23 - Christian Togetherness in Brazil

  In Goiânia, a girl eleven years old was among the seventy-seven baptized

  *** yb02 p. 110

  Curaçao ***They started to study with Jehovah’s Witnesses. Subsequently, Renzo’s father and mother along with one of Renzo’s Bible students were baptized. Renzo, now eight years old, was baptized at a circuit assembly in Bonaire.

  *** w96 10/15 p. 32

  "Jehovah Answered My Prayers!" ***Consider, for example, a boy named Joel. He symbolized his dedication to Jehovah and was baptized at nine years of age

  *** w90 7/1 p. 11

  Jehovah’s Blessing Has Made Me Rich ***When I was nine years old, I determined to dedicate my life to Jehovah and be baptized. Because of the persecution, we were not told the location of the meeting, but we were led to a place in the forest where a large group of Witnesses were enjoying a "picnic." There my older sister Eleanor and I were among the many who were baptized in the cold waters of a nearby lake.

  *** w92 10/1 p. 22

  ‘Should I Get Baptized?’ ***Ayumi got baptized when she was ten years old.

  *** w87 4/15 p. 13 par. 15 Gaining Peace With God Through Dedication and Baptism ***

  In modern times, a Christian named Jean was baptized when she was only ten years old
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  The Gradual Change From Worshiping Jehovah To The Worship Of the Governing Body

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i first began my misadventures with jehovah's witnesses in 1972 as a youth(18 years old) and was baptised in that same year.

  i was young inexperienced and they caught me at a low point when i was weak and looking for god to solve problems.

  being raised as a catholic and going to all the religious indoctrination up to the point of confirmation, i guess you could say i was indoctrinated from birth to believe a certain way which left me vulnerable to the jw propaganda.. fast foreword to the time of my departure in 2001 february.. for a couple of years (late 90s) before i left i started noticing out right lies in the wt publications about their history and the luster that these magazines used to have started to fade rapidly also around that time i really began to notice the gobs and gobs of praise they were bestowing on the organization and the representative members of the so called faithful & discrete slave(gb).

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  MissingLink

  Personally I thought this was a pretty new thing. Or at least that it's been getting much more extreme. But after recently hearing experiences of ex-jws from about 30 years ago, I was surprised to hear that they were complaining of the same thing back then. Perhaps those people were just more sensitive to the subtle worshiping of the GB, and perhaps it IS getting more extreme.
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  If You're Married Or Have A GF, BF,Do You Still Have Friends Of The Opposite Sex?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm curious if you are "allowed'' to have "friends" of the opposite sex?

  or is that a no-no?.

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  MissingLink

  I wouldn't be comfortable with my wife having friends that weren't also my friends. Like if they were going out together, and I was not invited. That would not be cool. And I wouldn't have any friends who she didn't get along with. That's kind of a deal-breaker. Now, if she had a male friend and they were going to do something I wasn't interested in, well fair enough, go for it. But I should at least be invited.