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  you can disassociate without even knowing it...very rare!

  by oompa in

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  this works well for elders who are cowards and want you out but dont really have a dfing offense to hang on you...even if you make no statement written or oral that you no longer want to be a jw they can say you quit jw.

  they can say that some actions of yours indicated to them that you have disassociated yourself and when that happens they are not even required to tell you there is a committee formed...so there is no reason to tell you a letter is going to be read and so you have no two week period to challenge their decision...but they do not even have to tell you why they reached the decision that something you did that made them conclude you have disassociated yourself.

  in fifty years i have never even known anyone who disassociated themselves...and have never even heard of anyone disassociating themselves without even knowing it!!!!

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  oompa

  so true nugget...i even told them that if they can make an announcement about me in the hall that will take away my parents and friends that they owe me an explanation....that is when they asked me to leave the hall....total meeting was four minutes...they had no intention of answereing any of my questions and only one of them even spoke...one of my old dear friends was there and he never once looked me in my eyes...he had even told me months ago he wished the decision could be reversed...but he just followed the head bull elder...............oompa

  and i am under no delusion that i could ever win a legal case against them

  i really dont know why more people like me dont go totally postal on them....
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  Aloha, I'm new and in need of legal advice

  by robyn1991 in

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  so i've been told there are a few people on her that could help me with this problem?.

  to cut a very long story short, i was raised a jw, i left the wt in january to be with my partner, a non-jw.

  i was marked for dating, even though i hadn't attended a meeting since december.

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  oompa

  sorry for your pains robyn...but funny...i am in a very similar situation although i am not pregnant lol. in fact i just posted this morning about my case and how i would love to sue the elders just to be a pain in their ass...but i know there is almost zero chance to win...........good luck and enjoy your life, your baby...and your partner.......................oompa
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  you can disassociate without even knowing it...very rare!

  by oompa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this works well for elders who are cowards and want you out but dont really have a dfing offense to hang on you...even if you make no statement written or oral that you no longer want to be a jw they can say you quit jw.

  they can say that some actions of yours indicated to them that you have disassociated yourself and when that happens they are not even required to tell you there is a committee formed...so there is no reason to tell you a letter is going to be read and so you have no two week period to challenge their decision...but they do not even have to tell you why they reached the decision that something you did that made them conclude you have disassociated yourself.

  in fifty years i have never even known anyone who disassociated themselves...and have never even heard of anyone disassociating themselves without even knowing it!!!!

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  oompa

  they refused to tell me what i had done that led them to their decision...they never mentioned the blood transfusion i got while i was unconcious at the hospital and im sure were told not to say it since i could be recording the meeting....but it also may be because they know i associate with dfd people including my sons....part of me wants to sue these guys individually rather than the org....just to make them spend their own money and be a pain in their ass...can you imagine how long i could drag that out? it could cost them thousands...............................oompa
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  you can disassociate without even knowing it...very rare!

  by oompa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this works well for elders who are cowards and want you out but dont really have a dfing offense to hang on you...even if you make no statement written or oral that you no longer want to be a jw they can say you quit jw.

  they can say that some actions of yours indicated to them that you have disassociated yourself and when that happens they are not even required to tell you there is a committee formed...so there is no reason to tell you a letter is going to be read and so you have no two week period to challenge their decision...but they do not even have to tell you why they reached the decision that something you did that made them conclude you have disassociated yourself.

  in fifty years i have never even known anyone who disassociated themselves...and have never even heard of anyone disassociating themselves without even knowing it!!!!

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  oompa

  this works well for elders who are cowards and want you out but dont really have a dfing offense to hang on you...even if you make no statement written or oral that you no longer want to be a jw they can say you quit jw. they can say that some actions of yours indicated to them that you have disassociated yourself and when that happens they are not even required to tell you there is a committee formed...so there is no reason to tell you a letter is going to be read and so you have no two week period to challenge their decision...but they do not even have to tell you why they reached the decision that something you did that made them conclude you have disassociated yourself

  in fifty years i have never even known anyone who disassociated themselves...and have never even heard of anyone disassociating themselves without even knowing it!!!! and what pisses me off is that they have told others both inside and outside the congo that i was not dfd but disassocited myself which around here is WAY worse to the flock than getting dfd for like flukkin around...which is so flukkin common it is almost cool. i feel that them telling others that i quit jw when i really did not is slander and has really defamed my character and i would say it damaged my reputation but lol i already had a horrible reputation!!! so now i am pretty much like satan on earth around here....i bet almost everyone on this board has never heard of anyone disassociating themselves without even knowing it! if you have let me know

  the only reason i even met with them was because of my parents who will have almost nothing to do with me now...i really miss them and will for the rest of their lives

  these guys have almost no real accountability............I feel sooooo special!!!..........oompa
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  please help me find a link to the newer flock book download....

  by oompa in

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  i had it once....emailed it to others...now can not find it dammit.....thanks in advance guys....and ya i tried to find it on the search thingy here......oompa.

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  i had it once....emailed it to others...now can not find it dammit.....thanks in advance guys....and ya i tried to find it on the search thingy here......oompa
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  jehovahs water miracles vs. jesus water miricles...

  by oompa in

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  well i was only thinking of two...but as soon as i typed the title line i realized there are more...... jesus turned water into wine....pretty famous and a nice trick....and i guess if it is true it was the best fluckkin wine in the universe since it came from perfection.

  so what did dad do with water?....he turned a river into blood...the nile i think but not sure...... so what does this mean?....that jesus was a raging alcoholic providing wine to his drunk wedding buddies....and that god is a vampire???

  ?....my son actually texted that reasoning to me and just another reason i love him so much.

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  oompa

  well i was only thinking of two...but as soon as i typed the title line i realized there are more.....

  jesus turned water into wine....pretty famous and a nice trick....and i guess if it is true it was the best fluckkin wine in the universe since it came from perfection

  so what did dad do with water?....he turned a river into blood...the nile i think but not sure.....

  so what does this mean?....that jesus was a raging alcoholic providing wine to his drunk wedding buddies....and that god is a vampire????....my son actually texted that reasoning to me and just another reason i love him so much

  but duh...jesus also walked on water....god make it spit forth from a rock....plus he used it to kill almost all humanity and animalaty in the flood...lol...plus he gave us this river of life thingy..................................oompa

  hard to believe i am at the beach thinking of this crap
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  Tonight I disassociated myself - after 24 years - had 2 hour meeting with Elder

  by Intel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am now sitting at home.

  my wife left with my little child.

  my fault (i dislike the word "fault", but don't have a better one right now).. it feels strange, relieved and free, at the same time it was all very strange.

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  oompa

  hang tough man...it is really a mind fluck.....be strong i hope.....oompa
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  what am i in for? i have 5 jw employees and now im dfd...

  by oompa in

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  only one is a guy...a mini serve .

  one is a reg pioneer.... all are actually pretty key to my biz....three have been there over 20 years (ya...i am a great boss!!!).

  how much pressure are they going to get to quit working for me???.

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  oompa

  thanks for all the good input guys...i wish i knew where there heads are at....even if i ask them i will not really know their plans...i did ask one and she said she had zero plans to leave..........thanks again and i will keep you posted...........oompa
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  what am i in for? i have 5 jw employees and now im dfd...

  by oompa in

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  only one is a guy...a mini serve .

  one is a reg pioneer.... all are actually pretty key to my biz....three have been there over 20 years (ya...i am a great boss!!!).

  how much pressure are they going to get to quit working for me???.

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  oompa

  only one is a guy...a mini serve

  one is a reg pioneer...

  all are actually pretty key to my biz....three have been there over 20 years (ya...i am a GREAT boss!!!)

  how much pressure are they going to get to quit working for me???

  i read the new elder handbook about it...but it is kind of fuzzy....there are two paragraphs about quitting your job if working for a dfd or apostate exjw.....one said they may be given reasonalble time to quit...it says six months........i guess so that local elders can do whatever they want.........oompa
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  Is it normal to spend so much time here?

  by burnedout in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am fairly new to taking a stand on what i have long felt about the org.

  no longer an elder now (big weight off my shoulders), and really find i am researching on this board all kinds of things i suspected and are now confirmed.

  looking back over the years i had many intuitions about some situations and never took action on those feelings.

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  oompa

  ugh outlaw....that was a groaner.........oomps