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  I didn't KNOW--w-w- THIS ! ! !

  by ros in

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  i just learned something from a post on the old h2o that has me steaming!.

  (some of us still occasionally post there, including--bless his heart--kent.).

  according to one poster, there seems to be something reallllly steaming at bethel since 1997 (assuming the guy knows what he's alluding).

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  Flip

  Ros, I agree with the “reverse mortgage” scenario ChuckD describes being quite commonly promoted because of the accumulated asset base of aging “boomers”, and lacking cash and time.

  Although the WTBTS repetitively publishes the “end is nigh” scare tactic, they sure don’t run their finances or 'planed giving desk' like anything catastrophic is going to happen any time soon.

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  Now I am sure the Society, has invested that money, and not just in Kingdom Halls. That governing body member that went down to the N.Y Stock exchange did not go down there to play bingo. Maybe they have been placing bets on dead or dying horses. There has been a down turn in the stock market in the last few years, especially in high teck stocks. Nortel in Canada, holds about one third of investment in Canada (orsome such figure) has been a disaster.

  The Toronto Stock Exchange 300 Index total value at one point in time during the last lamented stock bubble was almost 30 per cent Nortel. But the TSE300 index relative to United States Stock Index’s is almost insignificant and describing this as a disaster for the most is a bit of an exaggeration.
  
  However as the tech stock bubble burst, Nortel fell as fast and far as most other Tech Stocks, like all boats falling during a receding tide down to their normal, less exaggerated valuation.

  Only those who would’ve suffered significant financial losses would have been a few who bought at the peak of the bubble and refused to heed the warning signs and held on, or those trying to catch a falling knife by timing the bottom on the way down.

  I suspect the Governing Body member going to the New York Stock exchange was there to sell Nortel along with the rest of “Babylon the Great”. Or has that “historical” bible reference also been expunged from the memory of the JW rank and file by the WTBTS Corporation.
  
  Now that ‘things’ appear to have bottomed, I wouldn’t be surprised if the WTBTS financial department is back at the Stock Exchange picking up a few shares of Nortel as we ‘speak’. Nortel closed up over a dollar this past week.

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  Homind DNA Extracted!

  by uncle_onion in

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  here is the link:.

  ... http://allafrica.com/stories/200107260275.html.

  if the find at a local world heritage site is authenticated, it could be.

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  Flip

  hs still won't nessecarily disporve god but it will step on many a fanatics toe.

  More important than proving whether God exists is calling into question how we have been told how God is supposed to "think". Which ultimately means throwing the Bible, Koran, Torah and their ilk into the trash heap" and going back to the "drawing board".

  Hopefully it’s not a publishing company near Manhattan Island that finally gets it "right".

  I know it's expensive to finance a "religious" business in New York but how much money do they really need to squeeze out of a finite population of “melonic” adherents to come up with an answer, after all.

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  Are ex-dubs still in denial?

  by Rex B13 in

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  http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010729/wl/israel_palestinians.html .

  divine prophecy fullfilled on a daily basis.

  ex jdubs in denial on a daily basis.. rex

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  Flip

  Are ex-dubs still in denial?

  I really wouldn't even know where that is Rex, but I've heard there's quite a few in Des Moines.

  God spare me...i sound Fed Hall

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  Any good times?

  by tattoogrl333 in

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  just wondering if there were any positives to being a jw.

  i have read most of the posts and see that a lot of people were jw for years and years and was thinking that not all that time could things have been bad?

  oh and somewhere in gen. it is supposed to state that we are living in the 7th day now????

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  Flip

  ...Let's face it, if you are willing to wake someone up on a Saturday morning to tell them that everything they hold sacred is wrong, selling them a new stereo is pretty easy.

  Lol! Chuck! lol! Hopefully the manufacturers engineering isn't crap. :)

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  Brain Surgery Possible Without Blood Transfusion

  by apostate in

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  brain surgery possible without blood transfusion .

  http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010725/hl/blood_1.html .

  new york (reuters health) - patients who object to blood transfusions for religious reasons may still be able to safely undergo brain or spinal surgery, researchers report.

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  Brain Surgery Possible Without Blood Transfusion

  "...Brain Surgery Without a Diploma...", now, that would be newsworthy.

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  How the Net will reduce WTS ranks

  by Seeker in

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  she is studying with one of jws.

  she has a study with her teacher, and then she comes here and talks about it.

  she learns that the wts teaches one thing to new ones, but something else entirely to those who are already baptized.

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  And Jehovah's Witnesses are required to give their allegiance to that publishing company. To be a Jehovah's Witness = believing everything that the publishing company publishes:

  Perhaps I look at the above a little differently, dedalus.

  To be a Jehovah’s Witness = one must act as if they believe everything that the publishing company publishes.

  Just what an associate of the WTBTS Corporation believes is redundant because it’s impossible for “management” to verify, in spite of what is published.

  The reality is, how one performs for the Corporation is the only visible measure of Jehovah’s Witnesses as the degree of their subjection to the Corporation.

  Belief, if at all, is the last thing actually on the mind of a Jehovah’s Witness, appearance is the first and the WTBTS has designed the two concepts to be used interchangeably.

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  1st door-to-door?

  by Moxy in

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  the society tries very hard to present the idea that the door-to-door work was essentially the same in the 1st century as now.

  the rendering of 'door to door' in ac5:42 creates that impression.

  so do the talks that discuss the missionary efforts then in modern terms (eg "paul was making a return visit here on an interested one") philo's hospitality question earlier shows that we have all been a bit taken in by this.. wt covers like this (4/1/01) sure help too:.

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  you know what? - just forget it...

  Moxy, I thought you did a great job on this one! The symbolism was excellent!

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  Silentlambs and Signifiers that Signify Nothing

  by dunsscot in

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  call me a neopositivist, a semi-verificationist or semi-falsificationist, but the claims made by "silentlambs" reminds me of the shakespearean line that was quoted in the creator book published by the wtbts.

  that is, the contentions of silentlambs seem like much "sound and fury" that in truth signify nothing.

  i am of course referring to the supposed dateline show and the claims made about some members of the gb of jehovah's witnesses.

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  I suspect many persons including those who control the WTBTS, because of their recent absence of negative comment in this regard, also feel Christendom received a judicial "bum wrap" for turning a blind eye to "alleged" transgressions over those pesky little ones.

  Don’t sweat it Dunsscot, it will only affect the “financial pocket book” of the WTBTS Corporation.

  If recent history is any indication, everything should turn out just fine in the long run for the multi-billion dollar “religious” Corporations, including the WTBTS. :)

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  1st door-to-door?

  by Moxy in

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  the society tries very hard to present the idea that the door-to-door work was essentially the same in the 1st century as now.

  the rendering of 'door to door' in ac5:42 creates that impression.

  so do the talks that discuss the missionary efforts then in modern terms (eg "paul was making a return visit here on an interested one") philo's hospitality question earlier shows that we have all been a bit taken in by this.. wt covers like this (4/1/01) sure help too:.

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  ok cmon its an ornate house number # 12 and below is a doorknob…

  Moxy, my first impression of what you refer to as the “doorknob” looked to me like an electric doorbell!

  Also, is it just me, or does it look like the guy in the blue pin strip area rug has a subliminal face of Chuck “The Huckster” Russell drawn on the back of his left hand?

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  New Bethel complex for UK

  by JEMIMAH in

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  as some of you may know london bethel is very close .

  to buying new land to house a new complex (45 acre site).

  it is not often that ibsa has kept a secret this long before.. any info appreciated.

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  We are growing.

  - Fredhall

  Britain lost 1% of it's publishers last year.

  - metatron

  Obviously the financial investments of the WTBTS Corporations have had a much better result during that period.

  Fredhall was speaking monetarily metatron, unless he's referring to doing something "funny" on the other side of the computer monitor we would rather not know about.

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