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  Geoffrey Jackson- soliciting?

  by molybdenum in

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  i listened to geoffrey jackson’s latest talk “assisting our brothers materially “.

  jackson presented some arguments, one of which was….jesus did not stop the widow from putting money in the contribution box in the temple.

  basically saying regardless of your financial situation you have to donate.

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  molybdenum

  I listened to Geoffrey Jackson’s latest talk “assisting our Brothers materially “

  
  

  Jackson presented some arguments, one of which was….Jesus did not stop the widow from putting money in the contribution box in the temple. Basically saying regardless of your financial situation you have to donate. You have to “set aside” money for donating. No choice in this matter if you want to please Jesus.

  
  

  Awake May 2008 page 21>

  “Jehovah’s Witnesses do not tithe or in any other way solicit funds. Their work is supported entirely by voluntary contributions”

  
  

  Hmm “in any other way”….

  Didn’t Anthony Morris also recently tell witnesses to make donations even if you are in the poor range or words to that effect.

  
  

  One definition of solicit is “To petition persistently”

  
  

  So what Jackson and Morris are doing is soliciting ..is it not?

  
  

  I just don’t know how he can pontificate such hypocrisy.

  
  

  How much longer is this “veiled” solicitation from the GB going to be tolerated…

  
  

  Ramapo anyone?
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  Magadan

  by molybdenum in

  1. watchtower
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  it seems that g. jackson got confused during his presentation relating to jesus and his going to magadan.

  ( check out lloyd evans "magadangate") but the jw community seems very hesitant and quiet on this apparent "faux pas".

  has anyone had any feedback from jw's that you know on this or are they just sweeping it under the carpet as being nothing of particular note?.

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  It seems that G. Jackson got confused during his presentation relating to Jesus and his going to Magadan. ( Check out Lloyd Evans "Magadangate") But the JW community seems very hesitant and quiet on this apparent "faux pas". Has anyone had any feedback from JW's that you know on this or are they just sweeping it under the carpet as being nothing of particular note?
  
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  Share your Haysbridge, Surrey assembly hall memories

  by truthseeker in

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  2. friends

  did you ever go to the haysbridge assembly hall in surrey?.

  post your experiences.

  the assembly hall i believe used to be a reformed school for boys and was completely renovated and dedicated in 1985.. it was the only assembly hall i knew of that sold souvenir pens, book marks and notepads.. .

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  molybdenum

  I did go to Haysbridge a couple of times. Don't really remember much about it. Just another place to go and listen to boring talks. However, I have a couple of programs in my JW file. Both at JW Assembly Hall, The Embassy, Reigate Road Dorking. Jan 1977 and Oct 1979. Some blast from the past names appear like:
  P Presland. D Pocklington. F Waterson. P North.
  I have a program for Twickenham too. July 1980 " Divine Love" District Convention with W Gooch giving the Keynote Address. Ah ... Happy days?
  
  
  
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  Zoom meetings

  by molybdenum in

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  2. humour

  being pimo i attend the meetings regularly over zoom.

  ( i have to as my wife is a dyed -in - the wool, and stick-in-the mud pioneer witness.

  i have no possibility of leaving as it would create havoc in my life and at 68 years of age i just don't want the hassle of having to cope with the ramifications of disassociating myself.

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  molybdenum

  Thanks everyone for the replies. Nice to know that my situation is understood and I appreciate the encouraging comments. Keep them coming! Thanks also for the advice about the monitor Rocketman123. I'll look into it more. My birthday is on the 16 of this month so I need to decide soon which monitor would be the best choice. And no worries Long Haired Girl. The last thing I want to do is bring someone into this religion. I've avoided having RV's or any BS's despite pressure from my wife to "expand" my service when I retired a few years ago. The letter writing "service" that we do know is great for me. No pressure to get out for DtoD service. It takes me about a month to compile one letter as I am giving it "great thought" and that seems to please everyone. Needless to say that letter needs constant review so it has never been sent to anyone. No travel to the KH either. Suits me. Keep on zooming!
  
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  Zoom meetings

  by molybdenum in

  1. social
  2. humour

  being pimo i attend the meetings regularly over zoom.

  ( i have to as my wife is a dyed -in - the wool, and stick-in-the mud pioneer witness.

  i have no possibility of leaving as it would create havoc in my life and at 68 years of age i just don't want the hassle of having to cope with the ramifications of disassociating myself.

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  molybdenum

  Being PIMO I attend the meetings regularly over zoom.
  ( I have to as my wife is a dyed -in - the wool, and stick-in-the mud pioneer witness. I have no possibility of leaving as it would create havoc in my life and at 68 years of age I just don't want the hassle of having to cope with the ramifications of disassociating myself. I know, I am a spineless coward and should have the courage of my convictions, but I can live with it)
  In my congregation the members are all pretty good at being on zoom and the result is that the meetings are pretty predictable and boring.
  I am constantly hoping for some break in the monotony by someone doing something unexpected but nothing much really happens to lighten the mood.
  The only thing that was mildly interesting recently was that a slightly elderly member had the password as his name by mistake. He was confused as to why he was being referred to by that. However, he was soon told and it was corrected, and that ended any interest I had in the meeting.
  How about where you are? Have you witnessed any interesting "zoom failures" while attending a meeting or any comment about the zoom meetings that you might have.
  Just need a bit of a laugh.
  
  I will be 69 next month ( Feb) and having been a witness most of my life I of course have had to celebrate my birthday privately since becoming PIMO ( about 10 years ago). I'm thinking of splashing out on a 30 inch monitor to replace my 10 year old 23 inch as a gift to myself. Eyesight is getting worse so a bigger screen might be a good idea.
  Any advice on that?
  
  Sorry about two subjects in one. Hope I posted in the right place too. Please put me right if I have made any errors on posting this. Thanks
  
  
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  Anyone notice how when some of us older ones were in the cult.......

  by mickbobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was a kid in the late sixties the type of books we would study was very intense compared to the bull shit pablum that they put out today?

  i mean the finished mystery and others now its these stupid books that don't dive deep into the beliefs.

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  Stan livedeath asked
  

  "can anyone remember the big pink paradise book ?

  Unfortunately "Yes" I was forced to study it when I was a kid. Then came the "Babylon Book" I remember having to plough my way through all that information without understanding any of it at the Book Study. I thought that the "grown -up's" understood it but later I found out that basically no one had a clue what was going on. What a waste of time.
  
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  A film about Jonah

  by Sergey Antonov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  who has any thoughts about the new film about the prophet jonah?

  how could they divide the entire period into days, if the bible does not say so?

  the king ordered them to fast 20 days before the destruction ???!

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  molybdenum

  A quote from here:

  https://sermons.faithlife.com/sermons/13192-jonah-the-faithful-servant
  

  The Book of Jonah is small in size (a mere forty-eight verses) but great in its impact and extremely significant in light of its controversial interpretive history. The character, Jonah, has intrigued believers for many centuries. Unfortunately, he has become caricatured by many who miss the positive results of an objective examination of his life. The Book of Jonah is a case study of “missed blessings” because so many readers focus upon its supposed difficulties rather than upon its rich teachings. J. H. Kennedy laments this reality. He states that “to some people Jonah is only a hocus-pocus term which conjures up thoughts about bad luck and personal misfortune. . . . To many people, Jonah suggests an ancient literary myth, a fantastic tale about a man’s being swallowed by a whale and surviving the ordeal. The story is marked by the usual fictional extravagance of folk tales and especially by biblical supernaturalism.”
  
  This author hopes that all readers might see the inherent spiritual truths of Jonah, sense its deep message for humankind, and recognize its important portrayal of the character of God and his purpose. There are important lessons in this small book. One needs to realize that the “fish” is a relatively minor part of the story, mentioned in only three verses. R. T. Kendall is on target in stating, “The Book of Jonah is one of the most relevant books for the present time.” Its message is abidingly relevant for the modern-day reader.
  

  One for Jonah!
  
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  A film about Jonah

  by Sergey Antonov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  who has any thoughts about the new film about the prophet jonah?

  how could they divide the entire period into days, if the bible does not say so?

  the king ordered them to fast 20 days before the destruction ???!

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  molybdenum

  Well I guess that is one point of view. I probably would agree if it was not for Jesus himself referring to the account.

  Matthew 12:40 New International Version (NIV)

  40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

  So this must give some credence to the story. I am not sure if I agree on the way the movie depicted Jonah but I was entertained by it. There were some kind of "comedy" relief parts to it.

  So whether we are critiquing the movie per se or whether we are discussing /discounting the account of Jonah that is in the Bible record as pure fiction are two different things.
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  Why are they announcing 2019 conventions so early?

  by Richard_I in

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  i was just told there will be international conventions in canada in 2019. .

  so i looked at jw.org and i see that there's a whole bunch of conventions now listed on the site for 2019.. isn't this odd?

  normally we were told the location of conventions during the first week of january.. did they realize there was less in attendance in the 2018 conventions, and want to give ppl more time to make travel arrangements??

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  molybdenum

  Same as the question "How long is a piece of string?"
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  No meetings memorial week

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the august monthly announcements letter, among other things, says that if a memorial is midweek, there is to be no midweek meeting and if at a weekend, then no weekend meeting.

  previously it was only no other meeting on the same day.

  is this because so many congregations now share halls that scheduling it has become almost impossible?.

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  I think that all the meetings should be canceled in the 6 months before the memorial to give enough time to contemplate the meaning of the important occasion.