While at bethel a friend of mine was in a serious car accident and wound up in a coma. Within a few days, he was "dismissed" from Bethel so that there was no liability for the medical costs- and the state had to pay. I remember they had lawyers to make sure the medicare/medicade agencies couldnt come back after the Watchtower corporations.
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49The Governing Body Have Stabbed Many Old Bethelites In The Back By Not Taking Care Of Them In Their Old Age
by frankiespeakin inthese guys are real company men when they have mass lay off of older bethelites tossing them to the curb and making the congregation they are assigned to carry some of the load, so that the watchtower corporation can cut costs of providing for these nolonger young people who have devoted theirs lives to the corporation.. they are heartless bastards aren't they?
i wonder what kind of undercurrent this is causing at headquartes?.
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The Governing Body Have Stabbed Many Old Bethelites In The Back By Not Taking Care Of Them In Their Old Age
by frankiespeakin inthese guys are real company men when they have mass lay off of older bethelites tossing them to the curb and making the congregation they are assigned to carry some of the load, so that the watchtower corporation can cut costs of providing for these nolonger young people who have devoted theirs lives to the corporation.. they are heartless bastards aren't they?
i wonder what kind of undercurrent this is causing at headquartes?.
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I always assumed that when you leave bethel for medical reasons- they gave you some sort of landing pad. After 8 years, my wife became pregnant and we left bethel. Here is what we got:
- a letter stating that we HAD medical insurance, but that it is no longer active, and there is no COBRA provision
- a "reference letter" - the most dry, non committal letter you ever read- basically stating that you breathed and lived there for 8 years and didnt burn the place down (that they know of)
- some recommendations on how to apply for public assistance.
Thats it! Imagine if we werent young and full of energy. I shudder to think.
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Overheard some JWs on the train today- going to be interesting this year
by lrkr incruising down to the city this afternoon we were behind a group of j-dubs on the train.
part of the conversation centered around the "generation" teaching.
all of them clearly trying to wrap their heads around it.
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@free2beme- I totally agree. The witness thing is way more important to us and currently active members than the rest of the world. They are an oddity at best. I remember revealing my past to a current friend. I was sweating and worrying he would think that I was a total idiot. He just laughed and said something like- "Is that the worst you ever did???"
Part of the freeing process is realizing that their little reality is so far from actual reality.
@SFPW- you know- you shouldnt be posting on apostate websites- it could really screw with your faith.
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Overheard some JWs on the train today- going to be interesting this year
by lrkr incruising down to the city this afternoon we were behind a group of j-dubs on the train.
part of the conversation centered around the "generation" teaching.
all of them clearly trying to wrap their heads around it.
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The brainwashing is very strong. You can see people thinking- "there's something that just doesnt make sense here"- but then they are snapped back by the incessent droning- "You have the truth, this is the best way of life, the GB or F&DS are God's instrument, must believe, might be changes, dont be weak....." etc, etc, etc
But there are moments when you can see clarity on their faces. If only they would have the courage to ask the questions that lurk in the back of their minds.
That is the only path to freedom.
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Rebranding JW-HQ at Brooklyn Heights - full gallery (now with pictures!)
by Gorbatchov insee here the transformation from watchtower corporation to jw.org !.
greetings, gorby.
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Overheard some JWs on the train today- going to be interesting this year
by lrkr incruising down to the city this afternoon we were behind a group of j-dubs on the train.
part of the conversation centered around the "generation" teaching.
all of them clearly trying to wrap their heads around it.
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Cruising down to the city this afternoon we were behind a group of j-dubs on the train. Part of the conversation centered around the "generation" teaching. All of them clearly trying to wrap their heads around it. "But if those brothers are all dead and these ones overlap how long is a generation....."
I dont see the change in the generation teaching going well for them. Its just too obvious what they are doing- trying to stretch out the "urgency" they have been preaching for 100 years now.
And with it being 2014- you can see the duck and cover starting. Annual text is "let your kingdom come" study articles in January are about how great it is that the Kingdom has been reigning for 100 years. Anything to avoid people saying- "Hey wait a second- when is this Armageddon thing happening anyway???"
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Comprehensive NWT Comparison Project (calling all technically skilled members)
by Apognophos inis anyone aware if this project is already being done by someone?
if not, perhaps we can brainstorm how to go about this, now that the pdf for the revised nwt is out.
a couple initial impressions:.
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So... it looks like they took any magic or mystery that was left in the text out. I understand the "seed of the woman" is now the offspring. To me seed is very different than offspring. (one is animate and current, the other could be potential and latent) Also eliminating all of the "came to be" removes that beautiful reference to "TO BE" in the text.
Just when you thought it couldnt get any worse than replacing "grace" with "undeserved kindness" they further castrated the poetry.
I'm an athiest- so I dont really find religious meaning- but the poetry and symbolism have been centuries in the making.
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JW apologist Emeth dismisses teachings of Russell as irrelevant, uninspired and even funny.. Maybe in the future jw's will say the same about todays Governing Body?
by The Quiet One inemeth said: "russell never claimed to be a inspired prophet or without any failures or mistakes.
he was just a human as much as i and you are.
he is just a person who started a process of digging and searching for bible truths.
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Part of the campaign to distance themselves from Russells teachings. The F&D slave did not exist until after he was dead- in 1919.
Wonder what they'll do when they realize Rutherford was even more of a crazy??
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Whiskey with Cigars
by confusedandalone ini know a few folks here are huge cigar fans, i am asking if anyone can tell me a good whiskey to go with cigars.. i am sure this is kind of a broad question but i ma having some folks over for poker this weekend and i am trying to set things up real nice like... lol.
i have the cigars ready - but i don't want to break out the cheap crown royal... any suggestions.
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While I love scotch- I recommend a small batch burbon with a cigar.
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Wow! Max larson and nathan knorr must be spinning in their graves!