What about threesomes??
Posts by lrkr
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22Alone with someone of opposite sex.
by IMHO init's always been said that it's ok with a close family member.. what about amnon and tamar?.
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What are the worst pictures in My Book of Bible Stories?
by cedars ina few comments from muddy waters and mummatron on another thread peaked my curiosity and led me to revisit some of the illustrations in the my book of bible stories.
i don't appear to have my old copy from when i was a child (thankfully), so i checked out the images over on watchtower.org where the entire book can be read online.
the images below are taken from what is displayed on that website, although it wouldn't surprise me if there are equally awful images that haven't been used.. so which of the images below are the most grotesque and inappropriate for children?
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lrkr
The pic that started my brain thaw. 4 year old son asked- What did the kids do wrong??
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Chemicals buried at WT Farms (WT ruining the earth)
by doinmypart init seems that the wt is guilty of illegally dumping printing chemicals (or as they like to say "ruining the earth") in upstate new york.
read the full articles from the news sites below.. "state officials are investigating chemical pollution found buried at an upstate new york property owned by the jehovah's witnesses organization.
" http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/8e675d204fbf4352ab2cf65086b4b411/ny--buried-chemicals/.
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LAWSUIT: The Strange Saga of Lorterdan Properties at Ramapo v. Watchtower of NY
by AndersonsInfo inthe strange saga of lorterdan properties at ramapo v. watchtower of new york.
information compiled by barbara anderson.
on february 27, 2009, the watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc. (watchtower) purchased 248 acres of land located in ramapo, new york, from a company named lorterdan properties at ramapo i, llc (lorterdan).
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lrkr
the wts got burned a few years ago when they bought a prop in Kent NY and spent 5 years trying to get an Assy Hall developed there. The locals and the land use boards fought them like crazy. Then they bought and developed in Newburgh. I would guess the GB (or whoever is in charge) told them to hedge their bets- get options on 2 properties and see where the development would be easier ("where Jehovah's spirit directs" is how they would state it). Its a clever maneuver.
3 comments:
- you can accomplish this with an option to buy and not put the whole purchase price of the property at risk,
-the option doesnt have the effect of screwing with the local property tax assessments like an actual purchase does (can you imagine- $21 million- on the rolls, off the rolls, on the rolls- it would suck to live there)
-I still dont get why you disguise 50% of the purchase price as a "consulting fee"- that seems awful shady.
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LAWSUIT: The Strange Saga of Lorterdan Properties at Ramapo v. Watchtower of NY
by AndersonsInfo inthe strange saga of lorterdan properties at ramapo v. watchtower of new york.
information compiled by barbara anderson.
on february 27, 2009, the watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc. (watchtower) purchased 248 acres of land located in ramapo, new york, from a company named lorterdan properties at ramapo i, llc (lorterdan).
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lrkr
The most interesting thing about this is that almost half of the purchase price of the parcel is labeled a "consulting fee." Now...let me think...why would an organization call half of the purchase price "consulting."
Seems to me that it would have the effect of lowering the accessed value. If there was ever a property tax issue WT could produce a sale agreement that showed a purchase price of 50% of actual value.
Ramapo has an ongoing problem with religious groups taking property off the tax rolls (usually they are orthodox Jews). My guess is- WT smelled that the property tax issue might be a problem- hedged their bets with this contract and eventually dumped the deal over fear of taxation.
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I think we have it backwards
by lrkr inyou know how when people come out of being a jw they say things like- but the bible is a good book- its just the religion that is bad.
or when describing muslim extremists commit some atrocity, people say- the religion is bad- but the koran is a good book.
or when you observe orthodox jews abusing members of their family- it is said- its the religion that is confining and doent allow leaders to be held accoutable- but the torah is a good book.. i think we have it backwards!!
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lrkr
Yes- but extreme conviction in what?
People who are extremely convinced that vitamins are good for you may write books, annoy friends, irritate relatives and blog alot- but I never heard of a vitamin fanatic killing, bombing, suppressing, isolating or shunning.
Only the sacred texts allow such behavior.
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I think we have it backwards
by lrkr inyou know how when people come out of being a jw they say things like- but the bible is a good book- its just the religion that is bad.
or when describing muslim extremists commit some atrocity, people say- the religion is bad- but the koran is a good book.
or when you observe orthodox jews abusing members of their family- it is said- its the religion that is confining and doent allow leaders to be held accoutable- but the torah is a good book.. i think we have it backwards!!
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lrkr
Calling the books sacred- gives them license to say whatever they want. If someone said what the "holy books" say today- they would be considered ignorant, ancient, and generally bad.
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Lawyers: Can a Jehovah's Witness sue the Watchtower Society for Civil Rights violations?
by Balaamsass ini have been on boards and run businesses, and been reminded by more than one cpa and attorney to cross ts and dot i s regarding corporate requirements or we would become liable to lawsuits.. therefore, my questions to any attorneys and cpas, and the keen minds on this board, are the following;.
i have been reading old threads on this site about watchtower society irregularities regarding tax filings with state and federal agencies.
evidently, a number of filings for different years were identical (unlikely if not impossible) or missing.
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lrkr
Seems the question should be- can you PREVAIL in a lawsuit against WT for Civil Rights Violations. Anyone can sue anyone for anything. Winning is a different story altogether.
One major stumbling block I see is "damages." You need actual damages to get very far in a lawsuit. If you could prove employment discrimination based on religion- you might have a case. But the run of the mill disfellowshipping.... I dont thing there's much there. "Emotional duress" and "pain and suffering" wont go very far.
Just my 2 cents.
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I think we have it backwards
by lrkr inyou know how when people come out of being a jw they say things like- but the bible is a good book- its just the religion that is bad.
or when describing muslim extremists commit some atrocity, people say- the religion is bad- but the koran is a good book.
or when you observe orthodox jews abusing members of their family- it is said- its the religion that is confining and doent allow leaders to be held accoutable- but the torah is a good book.. i think we have it backwards!!
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lrkr
You know how when people come out of being a JW they say things like- but the Bible is a good book- its just the religion that is bad.
Or when describing Muslim extremists commit some atrocity, people say- the religion is bad- but the Koran is a good book.
Or when you observe Orthodox Jews abusing members of their family- it is said- its the religion that is confining and doent allow leaders to be held accoutable- but the Torah is a good book.
I think we have it backwards!! The Bible, Koran and Torah allow and even condone violence, miysogyny, racism, genocide, child abuse, slavery, abuse of authority, ignorance etc, etc, etc. Really- the "holy writings" are the problem.
To the extent that a religious group ignores certain passages or tenants in their holy writings- they can be modern, inclusive, accepting, non-confrontational, enlightened- in short- humane.
This was a major "ah-ha" realization for me. I had it backwards. The religious groups arent the problem- some are a problem- yes- but the "holy writings" are what allow for extremism. Extremists are just being more faithful, orthodox, loyal, and observant of the holy writings.
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LeavingWT's DA letter
by irondork inthe blood issue has been an ongoing arguement between the roomie and me.
not heated, by any means, but she keeps qouting back established wts reasoning on the subject.
"it's feeding, jason.
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lrkr
"Worst thing you can do to your body"
Well I suppose cutting into the body to adjust organs might be worse- or surgery as we call it.
Chemotherapy I hear is quite hard on the body.
Setting a bone hurts like hell.
Lots of the things medical doctors do to us are not pleasant at the time and can be "hard on the body" but that doesnt mean they shouldnt be done. Blood transfusions have proven to be life saving. So much so that there is a global industry built around the harvesting and preservation of blood. Hospitals keep stores of blood like they keep stores of scalpels, antibiotics and bandaids. Blood is a vital part of our modern, medical apparatus and it works. Will there be a better alternative in the future? Possibly. As former and current JW's its only our cult training that makes us think longer about blood than about x-rays or MRIs or beta-blockers or any other form of modern medical treatment.
