If you really want to fight this- dont fight as a former member- fight as a concerned taxpayer. There is a taxpayer revolt on in much of the country and rural NY is no different. Some longstanding incumbents were turned out in November. Most people dont care about religion or truth or politics- they care about money. The only winning fight against this will be to point out the huge impact on roads, land, etc with NO tax benefit. Another large parcel of land permanently off the tax rolls. (Then they will just find another location, though- I suspect that Warwick is the OTHER location- Ramapo really has no desire for another large non-profit sucking up resources and paying no taxes.)
Posts by lrkr
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37Write letters to citizens of Warwick New York exposing the Watchtower org.
by koolaid-man ina recent newspaper article in the warwick new york newspaper uncovers the plans for the watchtower society to move out of brooklyn new york and set up their world headquarters in warwick.
http://www.strausnews.com/articles/2009/11/25/warwick_advertiser/news/2.txt the citizens of warwick and the surrounding communities should be exposed to what the watchtower society really is, a dangerous and destructive cult!
note in the newspapers link comments made at the end of the article from concerned readers warning the community to really think twice before permitting the watchtower org.
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Watchtower Headquarters Planning the Big Move
by Kenneson insee "jehovah's witnesses moving to warwick".
http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20091116/news/911160318.
http://www.townofwarwick.org.
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lrkr
Warwick and Ramapo??? The two sites are about 30 minutes apart!! Did Ramapo not work out- or are they on a land grab tear??
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Christmas
by PSacramento ini am sure there is a topic already abput this somewhere, but i am too lazy to search so i beg your indulgence :).
my little one sofia asked me about christmas the other day ( she is 6) and of course she mentioned how grandma said that christmas is not the day jesus was born and that it is a pagan day !!!.
* pause for thunderclap*.
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lrkr
How about this- I dont believe Jesus was born on 12/25, I dont really even accept that his life really had any of the religious significance ascribed by the 4 gospels- but I really love christmas.
Its so great to have a tree in the house, have some time off to rejoice with friends, contemplate the next years goals and aspirations. Its for a reason the people have celebrated at this time of year for the last 3000 years. (PS- I dont believe in Saturn either- but I don't hold it against the romans for celebrating his day)
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Can a JW join the Rotary Club?
by Open mind ini've looked at the rotary web site and the most damning thing i can find is that they have a history of working closely with the un.. .
but that shouldn't be a problem for watchtower right?.
om.
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lrkr
I really like being part of the Rotary. It is a way to meet community leaders in a low pressure setting. We salute the flag, have a convocation before lunch, sponsor an annual holiday tree lighting, sponsor a Memorial Day parade and have an annual holiday party. I'm guessing an active JW would have a problem with this stuff!!!
Most of all JW's dont like Rotary because of our 4 way test- recited at the beginning of each meeting: Is it the truth? Is it fair to all concerned? Will it build good will and better friendships? Will it be beneficial to all concerned?
JWs fail on all 4 counts!
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New York State USA meet up for ex-jws for partying,anyone interested?
by witchtowerwitch inlets have some fun,before the big one gets us all ok?.
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lrkr
I'm closer to the city- Hudson Valley- will come if Im not busy.
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Official visit from two local elders one fine Sunday morning
by SnakesInTheTower inwell, it finally happened.
a week ago sunday my fiancee and i were sitting in the living room drinking coffee and watching the morning talking heads when we heard the crunch of tires on the gravel in the driveaway, about 10:30 or so.
we looked at each other with that "are you expecting anyone?
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lrkr
Congratulations! Amazing how kids are so good at helping us let the cat out of the bag!
Your path and stories have been inspirational to many here- I wish you much happiness!
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New construction in Walkill just announced - requesting volunteer workers 19-55 yrs. old.
by cattails init was just announced by letter to all congregations .
that there's going to be new construction in walkill.
new housinging buildings added, .
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lrkr
They think that their construction is the foundation of the new world.
I'll bet the residential facility is to house the workers who will be building the Ramapo facility- and once thats done- they can move out of Brooklyn once and for all.
Then Rockland county will be flooded with Hasidim and JWs!!!
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Bethel brother prays we remain submissve and obey the GB
by JerkhovahsWitless ini had my sad (and what a sad day for me it was) maybe a little over a month ago... the concluding talk was given by some bethel douche.
his name is don or john larson / larsen.
his wife's name is emma (maybe it was enema?).
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lrkr
John Larson is a up and coming heavy. On the Branch Committee and, I think, Factory Overseer. Always struck me as a bit of a weasel.
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Valley Farms Corp. What do they protect with it?
by MinisterAmos inmost already know that watchtower corp atty phil brumley uses a patterson, ny address as his residence.
using google maps, 131 brimstone road, patterson ny is starting to shape up into a veritable mansion.
maybe they are planning another rutherford (also an atty) style beth sharim but this time close to wallkill?.
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lrkr
Sorry guys- the houses they buy for lawyers, doctors and other "professionals" who have given up their profession to come to Bethel- are just houses- nothing fancy. They are considered an amazing luxury to other bethelites- because they have a kitchen, laundry room, dining room and more than 500 square feet. But they are just typical houses. No mansions. The problem is that they are used to living like normal people and often they or their wives cannot adjust to the regimented schedule and communal living at Bethel (because it isnt normal!!!)- so in order to induce them to stay and drill Bethelites teeth, or remove bunions from their feet, etc, etc-they provide a house for them.
In the case of Brumley- he just milked the system- he was a career Bethelite who convinced someone that he needed a house because he was a professional too.
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Valley Farms Corp. What do they protect with it?
by MinisterAmos inmost already know that watchtower corp atty phil brumley uses a patterson, ny address as his residence.
using google maps, 131 brimstone road, patterson ny is starting to shape up into a veritable mansion.
maybe they are planning another rutherford (also an atty) style beth sharim but this time close to wallkill?.
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lrkr
Are you able to share your source? From what I can tell, they are tax exempt?
I may be mistaken- but that's what I remember- They have several property holding companies- some of which are used to pay taxes on property. (source is my recollection- may be slipping- I am trying to forget as much as possible!!)