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  Book by elder urging reinstatement! Son committed suicide....

  by crazyblondeb in

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  i was just cruising another xjw website, and they had this posted.

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  the son committed suicide after being df'd........it's just so sad they can't get what they are doing to people.. .

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  Wow. Profiting from son's suicide and encouraging others to continue to dance. Deeply disturbing.
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  How do you deal with co-workers?

  by anewme in

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  as a witness i only worked with other witnesses for 35 years.

  now thrust out into the real world i find myself unprepared .

  for many of the confrontations i am experiencing with fellow .

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  Although there are petty, small minded, vulgar people everywhere (including in the KH) I found that I had developed a set of prejudices from my time in the org. I assumed that vulgar speech meant lower intelligence. I assumed selfishness. I presumed to think that non-dubs were "evil" because that is what I was raised thinking.

  What I found was that there are very good people beneath those rough exteriors. And many of the rough exteriors are due to abusive environments that many grew up in. I still struggle with my prejudices and am trying to develop a new radar- that looks for good people. I still have to be careful- you cant trust everyone.

  But I find that many people who are well dressed, respectful, kind, and well spoken are usually selling something. Many times, these people are more shallow and devious than the tough looking, tough talking crowd.

  But I feel for you finding your way in the work world after a lifetime on the inside. It aint easy. But it gets easier.

  Just my 2 cents.
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  Any Russell/Rutherford wannabes out there???

  by lrkr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok- nows the time for any of you really ambitious, organized, self motivated people out there to get moving.

  write a book or two about the coming great change in 2012. link it to obscure bible prophecies.

  wait for something to happen (doesn't really matter what- war, terror attack somewhere, death of the pope, worse flu season than most).. then claim divine providence.

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  Well, in a couple of weeks we'll know if they have the truth, won't we. Be on the lookout for snakes with bruised heads. (If the weather warms up, my cats will bruise a few snake heads.)
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  Book of Revelation =By John. Was he just on drugs!!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  on the island of patmos john see's visions of "seven headed beasts coming out of the sea" and 'harlots and diadems and locusts" and........stop this ride i want to get off!!!

  why all the nostradamus non-sense?

  why all the cloak and dagger mind freak?

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  What always astounded me about the interpretations of Revelation, Isaiah and Daniel by the WTBTS was the way everything eventually applies to the imprisonment and subsequent publications of JF Rutherford.

  This is probably one of the key doctrinal problems I had with the org.

  If you buy into the teaching that the bible was divinely inspired, protected and translated so that it could be faithfully transmitted 2000 years to us today- why did God spend all of that energy to protect a prophecy about 9 guys going to jail for a few months??? And all of this rich, figurative language in Revelation is actually about a tract campaign that no one remembers today or cared about at the time!!??? Oh and a few conventions of a few thousand people where the main event was a prophecy about 1925 that never came true??!!!

  I thought the Revelation book was bad. But the Isaiah books are even worse. Every bit of vivid prophetic language is all about JFRs trip to jail!!!!
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  Need Info About CONVENTION CONTRIBUTIONS

  by V in

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  i am looking for someone to comment on the way distrcit convention budgets are calculated, including the inevitable "deficit" that is based on a prearranged dontation to the "worldwide work.".

  this information will be shown in an upcoming watchtower comments video, so i need accuracy, documents, links, anything you can provide.. thank you!.

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  As Jeff said- the announcement of the accounts report is made at the Sunday morning announcements. Most of the donations come in Sunday at lunch or Sunday at the end of the day. This is just typical human behavior- procrastination. The accounts report provides a chance to remind everyone that they should donate and the deficit scares those who already donated into donating more. All assemblys have a deficit on Sunday morning and no one in the administration is much concerned about that because they know that Sunday lunch and after the session is the big take.

  Regarding the expenses, assembly halls have a "required donation" per attendee ($4-$10) based on their operating expenses. The total "cost" is calculated from the attendance and that is put against the money collected as of Saturday. Therefore- automatic deficit. Additionally, as Jeff said, the elders usually pass resolutions at the Saturday PM meeting to donate lump sums to the Worldwide work, reimburse expenses, etc. These resolutions are often passed with a deficit showing on the accounts sheet. The resolutions are based on what has been collected in that circuit in the past. So, if there wasn't a deficit before- after these resolutions there is one. Or a deeper deficit.

  Thats how it works at the circuit level. At the district level- I think a lot more of the $$ goes directly to the Worldwide work since often they get the arenas and facilities for free. They're free because part of the pitch that the Convention Office makes to the town, city, chamber of commerce is that we have 5000 JWs coming for a once a year program. They will spend $x in your local economy on food, lodging and gas. That will turn over x times in your economy, generating x dollars in tax revenues and x jobs. So- give us the arena for free or we'll go somewhere else.
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  Any Russell/Rutherford wannabes out there???

  by lrkr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok- nows the time for any of you really ambitious, organized, self motivated people out there to get moving.

  write a book or two about the coming great change in 2012. link it to obscure bible prophecies.

  wait for something to happen (doesn't really matter what- war, terror attack somewhere, death of the pope, worse flu season than most).. then claim divine providence.

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  OK- nows the time for any of you really ambitious, organized, self motivated people out there to get moving. Write a book or two about the coming great change in 2012. Link it to obscure bible prophecies. Wait for something to happen (doesn't really matter what- war, terror attack somewhere, death of the pope, worse flu season than most).

  Then claim divine providence. And start a worldwide religious movement based on your books and teachings.

  Its that time again. Turn of the century + 10-15 years. Everyone's pushing the end times prophecy in one form or another. Jump on the band wagon. This could be your ticket.

  1800 had its set of dooms day nuts. 1900 had its set (including our favorites) and 2000 will have its set.
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  Hyperthyroid/Graves Disease

  by lrkr in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  anyone with experience with this condition??

  my wife was recently diagnosed.

  just trying to find some info.

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  Hyperthyroid will severly affect her mood and fatigue levels. We went through a year of this with a newborn in the picture. Patience. Patience.

  I think you have the picture. The screwed up liver part scares the hell out of my wife.
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  Only 37% raised in JW stay in

  by White Dove in

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  2. current

  in the cbs/ap it's reported that "only 37% of those born into the sect remain members.

  " it also said that jw is the fastest growing religion with the worst retention rate.

  i guess it's that they appear attractive long enough to baptize the people, then they lose them.

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  Big mention of this during tonights "Real Time with Bill Maher" on HBO.
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  Memorial Talk

  by Poztate in

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  2. friends

  can anyone get hold of the memorial talk for this year ??

  i have to assume it would be a new talk since they have reopened the heavenly calling once again.. it would be refreshing .

  i don't think it will happen that way.

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  I have the outline that has been used for the last ??? 7 ?? years. We'll see if its different this year. Previous outline- written by someone with severe ADD.
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  Hyperthyroid/Graves Disease

  by lrkr in

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  2. medical

  anyone with experience with this condition??

  my wife was recently diagnosed.

  just trying to find some info.

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  Easy Ninja. Thank you everyone else. Specifically wondering if anyone has had success with herbal treatments or if the usual course of Tapazole is effective.