More attempts to innoculate against those darned apostates and that wicked media with their persecuting facts about us being a bunch of child molesters.
And it has the added benefit of beating the drum that the end is oh so near!!!!
More attempts to innoculate against those darned apostates and that wicked media with their persecuting facts about us being a bunch of child molesters.
And it has the added benefit of beating the drum that the end is oh so near!!!!
i have not been on here in a long time but i have always valued the advice of everyone, so here goes.....i am dfd and my wife has never been a part of the org.
we are getting ready to have our first child in may.
my mother who is now living in patterson(at one of the motherships) speaks to me every 1 to 2 years.
I'm amazed at how you're handling this. I, like others, would be fuming. But you're approach to let her in is much more mature. You're right. Any chance at turning her around is worth it. There's no reason to let ideology come between family. You have to show her that you are bigger than that.
march 1, 2008 page 22.why do jehovah's witnesses not use the cross in worship?
"in agreement with this, oxford university's companion bible says: 'the evidence is...that the lord was put to death upon an upright stake, and not on two pieces of timber placed at any angle.
' clearly, the churches have adopted a tradition that is not biblical.
But the next jump in logic is the best....
"Therefore, if you believe that Jesus was executed on 2 pieces of timber, you are a pagan and deserving of death at Armageddon."
(That's the part thats hard to take.)
while i have only been to one meeting my entire life i have always found it odd that jw's don't use child care or sunday type school for children.
what is the reason for this policy by wts?
tia.
Thank goodness there isn't an organized Sunday School type program for children. The retention rate of kids staying in the Borg would shoot up I think. There would be an opportunity for professional indoctrination. And meetings wouldnt be so boring for kids, and irritating for parents. More teens would stick around, and more parents would enjoy the meetings (OK that last part is a stretch)
I say that the "Ignore the Kids" policy is having a predictable and positive influence. Please dont give the guys any ideas!!!
i would like to find some pro-jw sites.
i know that the society frowns on internet use....but there has to be some out there.
i know several years ago i looked at several sites that had forums with lots of active and strong jw's.
I dont know if this counts, but a lot of HLC guys post on and read:
ok i got my world population infor from here.. http://www.ibiblio.org/lunarbin/worldpop.
if the jws have an average of 6.7 million publishers and there are 6.7 billion people in the world then simple math tells us the publisher to population ratio is 1:1000 .
i will update this thread as i get information which i do not have in front of me at the moment because i am at work.. in 1980 the worlds population was 4.5 million and yet there were 2.5 million witnesses - so the jw: world population ratio was 1:1800 .
I say that the reason for the pop in the mid 90's is the fall of the Soviet Union in the early 90s and the resulting increase "over there". Last years increase I can't figure out- Just all of the drum beating, I guess
the wts has sent a letter to all convention overseers expressing their increasing concern at sisters "directing brothers" at district conventions.. with immediate effect (ie for dc 2008), sisters are no longer to be used as volunteers in parking and security / watchman departments.
any sisters volunteering in other departments (eg toilet cleaning) must be subordinate & follow the direction of appointed brothers.
this move will put a huge burden on the dcs in my area - nearly half the volunteers for parking are sisters and there aren't enough volunteers as it is.
When you read something like this, you remember how small the world of Bethel is. They love to obsess over stuff like this. Looks like some leaked out and got sent to the congos. Small minds......when you obsess over who tells who where to park- you have nothing to really obsess about.
at 30, for the first time ever, i mailed my voter registration form!
what an empowering feeling!
go ron paul!
Don't it feel great! I mailed mine in a few months ago. Didn't register a party, though- so I cant vote tomorrow.
if i only got a nickel every time i heard an x jdub say i should write a book, i'd be a zillioniare.
I say- more power to you all. The more books there are out there on the topic, the more coverage the issue will get. The more coverage there is- the more steam the movement will pick up. Besides, I imagine its somewhat cleansing to write a book about a painful experience.
There can never be too many books, websites, blogs, etc on this subject.
for me it was the fact that god is allowing all these innocent people to get killed to prove a point ,i mean it was a big bet he had with satan.. i explained it to my wife this way if i had our children killed in the most horriable way just to show they couldn't live without me how does that make me look?.
The teaching that most of the books of Isaiah and Revelation were actually prophecies about 9 guys going to prison in 1917 for about 16 months. Seemed like an awful waste of prophetic power. I remember saying (while I was an elder)- "Its a good thing those guys went to prison- otherwise we wouldn't understand the whole book of Isaiah"
The genocide thing got to me too.
And one of the final straws- How exactly do you make the world a paradise after killing 99% of the humans??