Very interesting ! Thanks for putting this together. I find it really interesting regarding the graph titled ' Max Publisher Increase in % ' . From the year 2000 until here in 2017, the increase has been at 3 % or lower, really has gone downward since the 21st century started. Good news. Perhaps people are waking up to the scam called the WT Society
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Why do Jehovah`s Witnesses believe everything will be Hunky Dory after Armageddon ? I have news for them.
by smiddy3 inthey seem to think that all they will do is enjoy a carefree life with little or no concerns problems or worries whereas nothing could be further from the truth... according to the bible.. without trying to speculate on these concerns or problems during this one thousand year reign of christ jesus ,lets hear what the bible has to say about the end of his thousand year reign.. rev.20:7-10 satan is to be let out of his prison {as if he hasn`t done enough damage in 6000 years of roaming about in the earth at the same time fraternizing with jesus and jehovah in heaven} i digress.. and the reason he is let out of prison ,lo and behold ,is to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth gog and magog to gather them together for the war.
{ here we go again ,armageddon didn`t solve anything we have to go through another one.
} 1000 years later.. now get this it`s not just some isolated little skirmish with a few hundred or even a few thousand dissenters ,as the bible states they number the sands of the seashore and they advanced over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp {not a nation but a camp} of the holy ones.and the beloved city.. with that description it would seem the holy ones are in the minority and the opposes apparently were spread over all the earth.. so that description of the bible to me about jc 1000 rule does not appear to be one of living in a paradise , that is not on the agenda until after jesus christ 1000 year reign and only if you are lucky enough to survive another test/war of your loyalty after all you have gone through previously.. i wonder if this realization is one of the reasons why so many now are claiming to be of the anointed because as one of the other sheep you have to pass another test after the 1000 years of christ jesus rule whereas of one of the anointed on death now you go straight to heaven ..
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NotNew- Very true. This is one reason - in my opinion- that it's so hard for JW's to deal with real life in the here and now- they are so focused on this imaginary " paradise " - they don't learn how to live in reality right now in the real world
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Why do Jehovah`s Witnesses believe everything will be Hunky Dory after Armageddon ? I have news for them.
by smiddy3 inthey seem to think that all they will do is enjoy a carefree life with little or no concerns problems or worries whereas nothing could be further from the truth... according to the bible.. without trying to speculate on these concerns or problems during this one thousand year reign of christ jesus ,lets hear what the bible has to say about the end of his thousand year reign.. rev.20:7-10 satan is to be let out of his prison {as if he hasn`t done enough damage in 6000 years of roaming about in the earth at the same time fraternizing with jesus and jehovah in heaven} i digress.. and the reason he is let out of prison ,lo and behold ,is to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth gog and magog to gather them together for the war.
{ here we go again ,armageddon didn`t solve anything we have to go through another one.
} 1000 years later.. now get this it`s not just some isolated little skirmish with a few hundred or even a few thousand dissenters ,as the bible states they number the sands of the seashore and they advanced over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp {not a nation but a camp} of the holy ones.and the beloved city.. with that description it would seem the holy ones are in the minority and the opposes apparently were spread over all the earth.. so that description of the bible to me about jc 1000 rule does not appear to be one of living in a paradise , that is not on the agenda until after jesus christ 1000 year reign and only if you are lucky enough to survive another test/war of your loyalty after all you have gone through previously.. i wonder if this realization is one of the reasons why so many now are claiming to be of the anointed because as one of the other sheep you have to pass another test after the 1000 years of christ jesus rule whereas of one of the anointed on death now you go straight to heaven ..
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I have news for them as well. The JW's have a hell of a lot more to worry about than an imaginary " Armageddon " or a "paradise " ( which will never happen ), and a hell of a lot more to worry about in the here and now than an imaginary " Satan the Devil " who does not exist who may - allegedly - torment them in 1,000 years. ( which will never happen )
JW's need to worry about doing something they tend to ignore or devalue constantly- and that's living in the real world, everyday in the here and now - planning for their financial security in the short years left of life they have left to live here on this planet before dying of natural causes. They need to break out of this unreasonable fantasy that anybody ever lives forever ( which they don't ) , and they need to pull the little WT voodoo doll pins out of their head that make them believe in unrealities and lies of the WT Society.
Unless JW's wake up to these facts they will die in an even sadder state than those of us who are Ex-Jws who have gotten used to the idea that yes indeed- every human who has ever been born - WILL DIE. If a person STAYS a JW until death they upon dying either remain in their fantasy thinking incorrectly that they'll live again ( which won't happen ) or they die awakening to TTATT - sadly realizing upon death that they wasted their entire life on a pipe dream . How messed up is that ? Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Things You Still Agree With The JWs On
by Fred Franztone inaside from obvious things that most people agree on, like theft being wrong and the importance of family, i can't think of a single thing i agree with the jws on, nothing that's specific to their religion anyway.
do you have any?.
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Sorry, just woke up, what was the title of the thread ? Oh, O.K. I'll go back to sleep , nothing to see here . zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz . As you can figure I don't agree with much of anything they say. Everything they teach is either fantasy, illusion, or enriches the WT organization's business plan. That's the angle that is used.
I can learn good morals & ethics from just having common sense . Or watching Trump. No- scratch that last sentence. lol
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2017 Service Year Report Grand Totals
by Drearyweather in2017 figures released to bethel families worldwide:.
peak publishers: 8,457,107. total baptized: 284,212 .
regular pioneers: 1,225,279 .
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As Freddo mentioned - Are there no reports of how many partook of the emblems at the Memorial this year ? Are WT leaders getting nervous that it might jump from 18,000 partaking to 30,000 in one year's time ? LOL. Wouldn't that be hilarious if the number jumped up to 144,000 or more within 5 years or so ? Then WT could claim that all of the prospective " kings " and " priest's " ruling in heaven have been chosen since 2010 !!
New light, right !!! ??? It's so weird, I swear they pull these teachings out of their bare back bottoms I'm tellin ' ya
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Leah Remini to do episode on JW's
by cobweb insaw this on reddit so this is a bit of a copy/paste jobie but i thought there would be people here excited about this as i am.
i've enjoyed her show on scientology and seems like in season 3 she is branching out with jw's getting the first episode.
https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/leah-remini-returning-to-ae-to-investigate-other-cult-like-religions/.
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This is awesome news ! I wish Leah could spend more time than just one episode on Jehovah's Witnesses ; but I understand there are hundreds of damaging mind control cults out there to expose. I think it will be a good format exposing different cults each week . Awesome ! Leah's the bomb . Pretty cool
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I FOUND the truth and REALITY after I left the JW organization. I found the truth- and " the truth " is me, myself. The truth is within me . I can trust myself and look for answers within myself as I saw the whole " sin and imperfection " teaching is a crock of shit. Religions teach us not to trust ourselves so as to make us have needless feelings of " guilt " or " shame " . I don't play that game anymore. I have no reason to feel " guilt " or " shame " - I'm a truthful, good person. Much more so than the WT Society or any other religion for that matter
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Why my religion is the truth
by eyeuse2badub ini found this extremely interesting and poignantly true.
it's a bit long but so well worded, highlites and bolds are mine!
by yoginder sikand.
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Interesting thread, thanks for posting. Indeed it never ceases to amaze me that people born into a religion, or even born into families with predisposed prejudices - many times never question those beliefs or prejudices and just run with them shaping themselves into the cookie cutter history of their families they were born into. And if those religions are abusive as well as hanging onto abusive prejudices - it just adds to more misery in the world.
It takes courage to break away from divisive belief systems that are harmful and forging your life ahead in a positive fashion while assisting yourself and others along the way towards a more peaceful course. Because if we think for ourselves - many times others will hate us for it and hate us for our independence. But like the old expression states, " opinions are like assholes- everyone has one. " I always think of that statement when someone religious is trying to push their belief systems on me. Cherishing my freedom of mind and independence is what helped me escape the mind control of Jehovah's Witnesses. I will always cherish that independence for the rest of my life
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What Music have you Been Listening to this Last Year ? Post You tubes if you Like !
by flipper inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.
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November Is The Cruelest Month
by JRK ini have been going through old papers and photographs since my mother passed away.
it has reminded me of some of the reasons that i really hate november.
this year has added to it obviously.. thirty-four years ago, my father passed away in early november.
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JRK- Your mom was absolutely beautiful like my mom. That is so cool that she acted in plays. What a neat thing to be able to say your mom actually was an actress ! That's awesome man. Take care , Peace out, your bud, Flipper