Posts by flipper

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Do You Think Jehovah's Witnesses Are Typically Ignorant People?

by minimus in

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friends

i think most witnesses are simple minded.many are ignorant.

there are a lot of basically "good people "in the religion but i believe many are kind of dumb, including many elders.

do you agree with my thoughts??

flipper

In my opinion - JW's are " ignorant " in the sense that the WT Society and WT indoctrination KEEPS them ignorant. Their world view is very skewed to the point that anything that they consider important is ALWAYS WT Society or JW related. Anything outside WT cult indoctrination is looked down on.

By WT leaders insisting that they only read WT literature or the JW website to gain information- most of what JW's view as " real " or " normal " is actually - totally abnormal. Unless a JW somehow escapes to get a college education or does research outside the JW or WT mindset - they will remain ignorant and have a tunnel vision of what reality is.

I don't totally blame JW's - they're controlled and indoctrinated to think that way. Somewhat like victims of the Stockholm Syndrome being forced to identify with their captors - WT Society leaders. Sometimes it takes suffering an injustice by WT elders or getting treated like crap by fellow JW's to shake a JW up into truly thinking again with their brain. And if that happens- then they can gain critical thinking AND intelligence - and know true freedom of mind again

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Over 300 DFed apparently went to a northern U.K R.C!

by Isambard Crater in

that's what i've been told by a family member (elder) who went to one of the regional conventions in the north of the u.k lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says..

flipper

I was told by an elder way back in the mid 1990's that about only 33 % actually return to get reinstated after getting dfed. So about 66 % NEVER go back apparently. I'm sure the numbers vary from country to country depending on how different countries respond to fear and guilt tactics from the WT Society scaring them into getting reinstated. You know : the old Chicken Little syndrome " the sky is falling ! the sky is falling ! " I.e. = Armageddon

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JWorg & Scientology both have child sex abuse coverups within

by mrmagic in

just watched leah remini's season 2 episode 1 about the child sexual abuse within scientology and the coverups.

the same cookie-cutter patterns as what we have with the jehovah's witnesses.

they have mention australia and i'm wondering if the australian royal commission will one day investigate scientology.

flipper

Mr. Magic - Thanks for posting this thread. My wife and I watched this season 2 first episode as well about the two women who were molested . One by her Scientologist dad , and the other by a Scientology higher up. Our hearts just ached for these poor women as they tried to compose themselves while telling their horrific stories. I think my eyes were red from crying by the time this show was over as it was SO like what happens in the JW organization with the cover-ups , the shunning due to exposing the molester, etc. If ANY of you get a chance to watch this show- I highly recommend it. It will send freaking chills down your spine. And motivate you to want to expose these cults even more ! That any of these crimes can and do still happen in many religions with perpetrators getting away with it - is just barbaric in and of itself

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The Internet is worse for the Watchtower than 1975 was: here's proof.

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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friends

i am translating jwfacts to spanish.

i am doing the "statistics" section.here are two graphs that show that the statistics have never been worse for the watchtower:quantity of hours required for 1 baptism: note how low it went in 1974-1975, and note that 2016 is much higher than the slump of 1978... about double, to be exact.

2016 was a historical record in this statistic (higher is worse for watchtower).. this stat is the baptisms as a percentage of the publisher average.

flipper

I agree with the opening post that the Internet has by far been the best weapon against the growth of the Jehovah's Witnesses cult. It hasn't been just one thing exposed , especially since 1995. Not only the overlapping generation fiasco, it's been everything : the Australia commission on child abuse within the WT Society, the Candace Conti child abuse case which received a lot of mainstream media attention, the no-blood transfusion deaths which are getting more publicity in media these days, and the extreme control measures put upon rank & file JW members to " trust " the WT organization - even though they don't understand what the organization is saying. The selling off of kingdom halls making it more difficult for JW's to travel 30 minutes or an hour more to meetings. It's a combination of all of these things that starts making a JW doubt. Lack of real love , etc. Any one of these things can put a seed of doubt in a JW's mind until they get to their breaking point and have to leave.

That's how it happened with me, I reached my breaking point in order to get my freedom and happiness

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JW Kids Bullying My Daughter

by pale.emperor in

trying not to type swearwords as i write this so bare with me.. my little 3yo attends meetings with her jw mum (who doesn't believe watchtower anymore but is stuck in because she relies on her family for help).

my mum (the one who tells people im dead) had a party for her grandchildren.

that's my 4 nieces and 1 nephew aged from 3yo-11yo.

flipper

PALE- Thanks for sharing the you tube of your daughter receiving the gift from Uncle Zeb on the board . That is so sweet. Zeb is a freaking hero - I swear. It's so good to see your daughter happy and enjoying a gift that's an expression of real love or real caring from one of the board members here. I'm really happy for you and your daughter friend. Take good care of each other

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Just Offended A JW Cart Witness Without Even Trying

by pale.emperor in

on my way into town from my office.

two carts set up a few feet from each other.

one manned by a man and woman (i assume they're a couple) in their late 30s.. the guys walks off to the other cart as im walking by, i wasn't going to approach but the woman holding the awake!

flipper

Great job Pale Emperor . It appears that the JW man keeps his wife as a " slave " . I think just to stir the pot up if it was me- I would have walked back and said to the JW man, " Why are you talking so disrespectfully to your wife ? Doesn't the Bible tell you to treat her as a " weaker vessel " ? LOL. And see how he responds . Probably like a lead balloon. Just joking, I wouldn't have done that. But I'd have been tempted just to shut the mouth of the abusive JW husband.

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This might be my last post

by Akid48 in

so my aunt hates pcs but works in a office job and uses a pc to do work she has worked there for 23 years she taking me and my brothers laptops etc and she said i have to earn it doing jw things studying listening at meetings etc.. so if it is the last time i post hear i thank you all for you have told me i wish the all of you the best life you can have.i will try to post hear this will start when im in school..

flipper

AKID48- I hope you are able to join back with us soon. I've really enjoyed reading your thoughts and posts. We will be putting out positive thoughts to you for your future. Remember we will still be here as a support to you. Hang in there and get a good education. We'll be thinking of you. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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2017 Convention Recording: JWs Applaud 10yo Girl For Shunning Her Own Sister

by pale.emperor in

this poor girl was baptized at 9yo.

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she isnt old enough to buy alcohol, to vote, to decide her own medical treatment, to buy a pet, to travel alone... yet she was deemed old enough to dedicate her life to a religion that will cut her off from her family if she ever leaves.. here she is applauded for shunning her own sister who tried to keep in contact with her after waking up.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yzgnfda8ki.

flipper

Man oh man, this is SO creepy on SO many levels. This young girl seems like an automatic programmed robot for crying out loud. No emotion, no expression of feeling on her face- not until she hears the applause from the audience - THEN she smiles due to the cult approval of her shunning her dfed sister. So freaking creepy.

Just like as some mentioned a Hitler youth talking about murdering other racial groups without facial emotion- then when applause happens that same German youth would smile due to the approval of hateful, murderous attitudes within the Nazis.

In my opinion it shows just HOW dangerous any mind control group is with this mindset. JW's, Scientology, government parties- when you get a large group of people who are all in agreement on what they consider " acceptable " behavior - even though it's awful behavior - the wolf pack mentality kicks in and reasoning and logic and decency are totally thrown by the wayside. This little girl, the woman standing by her , and the audience are all captives within a " Stockholm Syndrome " going along with their WT Society leaders and slaveholders of them while being complicit and agreeing with WT leaders. They don't have a clue that they are enslaved. Which really shows how f----ed up this is. Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Glen Campbell

by glenster in

rip april 22, 1936 – aug.8, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rucysj4ibwi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etkzk9pxmio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxojkdqdnbi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/glen_campbell.

flipper

Here's a song my recently deceased mom really liked from Glen Campbell , Love you mom this one's for you- wherever you are :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zJBVdQd8iA

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Glen Campbell

by glenster in

rip april 22, 1936 – aug.8, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rucysj4ibwi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etkzk9pxmio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxojkdqdnbi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/glen_campbell.

flipper

Glenster- I'm glad you posted a thread on Glen Campbell's passing. What a talent. Rest in peace Glen. This was one of my favorite songs from him :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxSarBcsKLU