Posts by flipper

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Hello from Rio Rancho NM

by MattS. in

howdy all, i think i was on here a long time ago, but i digress.

i live here in rio rancho, new mexico and was wondering if anyone here is from around these parts as well?.

Hello Matt, welcome to the board ! My wife and I live out in Northern California - but a warm welcome to you anyway. If you aren't busy on July 7th to 9th we are getting together for our annual South Lake Tahoe apostafest, you are cordially invited and welcome to come as well ! It will be a lot of fun. Usually about 50 people show up. Take care, PM me if you'd like more details

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Protest against Jehovah's Witness organization in Poland on March 26th, 2017, covered by a local news TV

by WTS Archive in

watch it here: .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8koav8xzck .

the protest was organized by a former jw elder and pioneer couple - alex and iza.

flipper

Very well done and organized ! THIS is what needs to happen across the United States and in other countries as well. Ex-JW's getting together in numbers of 60 - 80 people, demonstrating with signs, getting media attention in public places, and even standing outside Kingdom Hall entrances as people drive in off the street to attend. Perhaps we'll start seeing this on mainstream T.V. or Internet around the world if Ex-JW folks can consolidate efforts and stop being like cats going off in all different directions without being herded or organized. I hope more of these grass roots movements get started

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Why are the individuals who make up the Governing Body so deluded

by UnshackleTheChains in

surely these men must see what's going on.

if they can afford fancy pinky rings, they must have smart phones.

if they have smart phones, they must be inquisitive as to how they are perceived.

flipper

UNSHACKLE the CHAINS- The ONLY reason that the GB may be inquisitive about how they are perceived is not due to having a conscience or that they feel bad about negative reports regarding them - the only reason they might be the slightest bit interested in curbing negative news is due to the financial concerns for themselves and the WT organization. WT power mongers and greed wish to keep the organization afloat as a property eating real estate corporation disguised as a " religion " .

These are NOT men who are deluded. They know full well what kind of scam they are pulling on rank & file Jehovah's Witnesses. They have " taken the money " and ran off essentially with the use of free, donated labor from JW's - then sell the kingdom halls out from under these same Witnesses - all the while claiming WT Society has title and deed to the land and properties.

These are NOT men who are deluded - who refuse to cooperate with orders from superior courts demanding they release data base files and names of over 20,000 pedophiles within the Jehovah's Witnesses. These WT leaders are evil, narcissistic, sociopaths who feel the laws of the land in any country do not apply to them. They feel entitled as they feel they ARE " god " essentially and have no need to answer to anyone for their actions.

They run a criminal organization intent on harming other people and breaking up families. This meets their end game- taking away people's money and power

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2017 Special Conventions.

by ToesUp in

jw
friends

jw special conventions.

who's going?.

are you "special" enough to be chosen?.

flipper

DREAMERDUDE- Thanks for the info. So it's as corny as I thought then. It's the same old " we are a people for special possession " - or - " Jehovah's people are SO special " - or - " we are so separate from the world our shit doesn't stink ! " In other words- same old exclusivity crap. Makes me gag. JW's think they're so special- yet they aren't even a blip on the radar screen in the huge world view

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Anthony Morris - The Higher Education Broadcast

by pale.emperor in

last night i had jw broadcasting on in the background while i was working, i like to keep up to date with their crap.

which is strange because when i actually was a jw i hated reading or watching their material.. anyway, on the streaming section, anthony morris comes on screen telling me that higher education is bad and "the better the university, the greater the danger".

i never would have believed it if i hadn't seen him say it myself.

flipper

Anthony Morris should go dig a hole for himself and crawl into it. What an idiot. Or as the sports commentator Jim Rome used to say on his show to stupid callers who called in - " stop talking " . My son now 32 years old is only a month away from getting his Bachelor's degree at college and out of the 8 JW or EX-JW adult children in my family I believe that only he and my adult niece will have Bachelor degrees. If it wasn't for both of them keeping their nose to the grindstone and persevering - they wouldn't have accomplished this. I'm deeply proud of both of these young people as the JW organization odds were stacked up against them !

If the GB wasn't so tunnel visioned in their teachings - perhaps GB member Morris and others wouldn't just be firing on 1 brain neurotransmitter and make idiotic statements dissing higher education. They'd have multiple brain neurotransmitters firing and not be so bogged down in their own heads with cult mind control. But they have evil intent on controlling JW's lives- so they'll never change. Evil is - as evil does

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2017 Special Conventions.

by ToesUp in

jw
friends

jw special conventions.

who's going?.

are you "special" enough to be chosen?.

flipper

Is this the same " special " convention where they are telling JW's to " not give up " ? As the " end " hasn't come yet ? Been out of the loop so long now I don't even care. But as the saying goes " inquiring minds want to know. " Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Elder doesn't know difference between new moon and full moon

by hoser in

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friends

today at the service group the elder leading couldn't figure out which was which.

he was trying to convince us that the memorial was at the new moon.

.

flipper

" Elder doesn't know difference between new moon and full moon. "

Is that the same as not knowing one's ass from a hole in the ground ? Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Kindness and the corporation

by punkofnice in

i refer to the thread started by nikl quoting the daily text.

in which the comment said:.

kindness can help you to deal with a conflict of loyalties.. can anyone here (or there), give a verifiable example of when watchtower corporation has ever shown 'kindness' when it wasn't for some selfish gain?.

flipper

Yes, Punk, I'd say that's a fair statement indeed. Great thread. Totally agree. WT leaders are in it for selfish reasons. As Blondie wrote - WT leaders never admit to mistakes , so never feel they need to be shown forgiveness, so they are very harsh and unforgiving to their JW rank & file members. The message the rank & file get is just give, give, give ,more time & money to " kingdom interests " . Translation WT Society corporate leaders interests

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11. How can we show our support for the Messianic King? (From book study last night)

by NikL in

the study was on how wt has refined itself over the years by ceasing celebrations of christmas etc.. paragraph 11.

11 what a fine example those faithful bible students set for us!

reflecting on their example, we do well to ask ourselves: ‘how do i view the direction we receive from headquarters?

flipper

Good lord - this is such nonsense and garbage.

This quote : " Our willing obedience shows our support for the Messianic King , who is using the faithful and discreet slave to dispense timely spiritual food. "

Right. Like if Jesus existed he'd pick leaders of an organization to " dispense timely spiritual food " that allow pedophiles to roam free from congregation to congregation and leaders who make excuses for their child abuse policies in not protecting innocent children ? Jesus must be pretty messed up himself if he picks these guys as spiritual " shepherds " . Sorry- I just ain't buyin ' it

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I Smell Fear...

by pale.emperor in

msoneone of fb sent me this.

looks like they know they're being exposed as the frauds they are.

this plus the theme of the next convention "don't give up" just reeks of desperation.. stash: /intesoft-inc.appspot.com/post/b21fe47ca2644a0ea2f6e28fe6401145.html

flipper

This comment sticks in the craw for sure for many of us like some mentioned here : "Surely there is ample evidence to show that you can trust the channel that Jehovah has used for nearly a hundred years now . " Seriously ? Let's count the reasons to NOT trust in this supposed " channel " .

1. In 1879 the " end " or Armageddon was forecast to happen in 1879. Did not happen. Then in 1925, did not happen. Then in 1975, did not happen. Then in about 2009 the WT Society claimed that Jesus prophecy of a " generation " actually referred to TWO overlapping generations of about 70 to 80 years each thus extending the time for the alleged " Armageddon " or " end " to happen way into the 21st century. Has not happened.

2. For years leading up to 1935 the alleged gathering of the " anointed " to rule in heaven with Christ was taking place according to the WT Society. WT Society taught from 1935 until about 2006 or so that the gathering of these " anointed " had stopped, the number was " sealed " or " done " . The number of those partaking at the yearly Memorial dropped from 15,000 or more to about 4,000 by 2006. In 2006 WT Society claimed the " door " was now reopened to allow more anointed to be "chosen " to go to heaven again. The number wasn't sealed . ( Of course this policy changed as many GB members who were anointed died- and due to NEW GB members being picked who didn't claim to be of the " anointed " - forced them to change this rule. ) Due to the policy of accepting more " anointed " now by 2017 the worldwide number partaking the emblems has jumped back up to about 16,000 to 17,000 . I thought we were told most of the anointed would " die off " before " Armageddon " ?

3. JW members are not allowed to receive life saving blood transfusions or their children either or they'll die at this alleged " Armageddon " or be disfellowshipped. Thousands of JW's have died due to this horrific WT policy.

4. For many years the WT Society policy on child abuse has stated for elders to report FIRST to the WT legal department BEFORE reporting child abuse incidents to police authorities. Thus thousands of innocent JW children are left endangered by pedophiles remaining unchecked within the JW congregations. Parents are NOT informed in any public announcements as to WHO these child molesters are so as to be able to protect their children. Thus justice gets prevented from happening and child molesters are even let back into congregations to victimize children again if they are DFed then reinstated back into the congregations after being deemed " repentant " . 99 % of these molesters don't change- how could they truly be considered " repentant " ? Yet we are supposed to trust WT appointed elders because they claim these molesters are " repentant " ? Once again the hollow words of the GB ring falsely " just trust us " .

5. The shunning policy which breaks up countless JW families in which any JW who chooses to leave the WT Society CULT will lose all their friends or family and moral support they had through their entire lives over the years. In a number of cases this causes severe depression, suicide, sadness, anger, and mental instability within those who choose of their own free will to leave this criminal organization the WT Society and Jehovah's Witnesses. Yet will WT Society leaders be held accountable for any of these policies ? Nope. They get off scot free from any damage that occurs .

6. The WT policy of putting down " higher education " and discouraging any JW's from getting a college education. As JW's we were told we would get " Satan's mind " or we would start thinking with " independent thinking " if we received " higher education " . Young JW's were even told in a 1968 Awake magazine to " not bother " with getting a higher education - because Armageddon would come and all your learning would be " useless " in the alleged " paradise " . That was almost 50 years ago when WT Society printed this. For the many JW's that followed this advice - poverty, hunger, loneliness due to not getting married, and bankruptcy followed.

These are only 6 items I mentioned on WHY anybody should NOT trust the leaders of the WT Society on how to live their lives. If you are a lurking JW sitting on the fence having doubts about WT leaders and are considering jumping off that fence to freedom of mind away from the dangerous organization Jehovah's Witnesses - please for the sake of your sanity and that of your family - do not hesitate any longer. The longer you stay in this organization- the longer you will remain enslaved and living locked in mental chains designed by WT leaders to control your life UNTIL YOU DIE. I speak in honesty and from the heart here. Take it from one who was born into it and escaped at age 44 years ago. Sincerely, Mr. Flipper