Posts by flipper

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Where you are in your life now.....What would you have preferred .... To be left in ignorance ? ...Or to know the truth about the truth

by smiddy in

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i think possibly their are a few valid reasons for either options to this question ,depending on a number of factors .. such as how old you might be, how long you have devoted your life to the "truth" as you believed it .

?....how it may affect your mental/physical health and well being.?.

how it will affect your financial position in your life ,?

flipper

SMIDDY- Great thread topic. Well - I'm almost 56 years old and exited the JW organization 12 years ago in 2003. I was born into the JW organization as my parents were in the cult 8 years before I was born. So like my 30 year old son who exited about 13 years ago at 17- I had to make my own decision to bolt from the organization at age 44.

I'm VERY glad I discovered TTATT because I cannot live a lie. I will not tolerate or support a criminal organization that throws it's children and other members under the bus unjustly . My life has been much happier outside of the JW organization pursuing my business, living life with a wonderful companion, my wife, enjoying the pursuit of playing music, writing songs , and having more freedom to pursue these interests and the TIME to do it as well.

Being self employed now for 32 years - I've always been pretty independent and self sufficient. I don't depend on JW relatives for anything and although I may get an inheritance from my JW dad and mom- it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they ( my older JW dad and brother ) tried to shaft me out of a good portion of that inheritance. Time will tell. I'm not going to lose sleep over it or sacrifice my freedom of mind to capitulate to the WT Society's wishes or negotiate my freedom with my older JW family.

As regards family relationships - I have a great relationship with my older JW mom and my nieces and nephews ( about 4 of them ) - children of my older JW siblings - whom I have a really great relationship with . I'm proud of the younger generation coming up behind me as more of my family in THAT age group ( 25 to 40 are exiting the cult. When the " old guard " dies off in my parents generation and my older JW siblings in their late 60's - the younger generation of non-JW's will then be in the majority and I'm sure I'll see a change in the wind in thawing out of family relationships once the cult members die. I have positive hope for the future. Perhaps one day my two adult JW daughters aged 28 and 27 will exit the Witnesses as well. I'll be here for them if and when they do

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John Lee Hooker - Jehovahs Witness

by apostrate in

a couple of excerpts from an interview with john lee hooker, american blues legend, a few years before he died in 2001. i found this to be somewhat humorous.. have you been married more than once?.

four times.

i aint never gonna get married again.

flipper

DAGNEY- Thanks for the input on John Lee. I've loved his music for years and years. Was lucky enough to see him perform live at Reno in 1998 , several years before he died. What a really cool soul he was. He was the epitome of cool

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I just want to find new friends ^_^

by pureginseng0 in

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my name is ji-seong lee and about jw life, it has been almost 11 years after baptism.. but researching about jw bad behavior, it was a real shock (including child abuse by elders).

but i think just keeping jw lifestyle is more comfortable than stopping it, because of my family.... i have mom, father, and one older sister, and my father was an elder (not now) and my sister is regular pioneer.. so it is just a challenge to quit my religion.. because i just love to make friends throughout the world, (nomatter what religion backgrond they have) i post this text and in the end of this you will find the kakaotalk id of me!!.

i am male and 1993 jan. born.

flipper

Welcome, Ji-Seong Lee. Wish you the best luck escaping the JW religion.

Stay with this board for friendship and good advice. Especially if things get tough with your JW family and friends.

If you can ever travel to California in July, every year there is a 2 or 3 day party/campout at Lake Tahoe. Anywhere from 35 to 50 really nice ex jw's from this board and their families and friends. It would be great to see you there.

Mrs. Flipper

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John Lee Hooker - Jehovahs Witness

by apostrate in

a couple of excerpts from an interview with john lee hooker, american blues legend, a few years before he died in 2001. i found this to be somewhat humorous.. have you been married more than once?.

four times.

i aint never gonna get married again.

flipper

Oh, no, say it ain't so!

Well, maybe you could make lemonade from lemons here and embarrass the hell out of the Watchtower with this. A lot of John Lee's songs were pretty darn salty...

Mrs. F

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Everybody loves Raymond

by Saintbertholdt in

a while ago the user vinman started a forum thread called: "ray franz was an idiot".

the reaction to it was quite negative but i have to admit that the title of that thread was intriguing to me.

by nature i am an iconoclast.

flipper

If Ray Franz was planning to betray the Watchtower and to write a book, even better in my opinion. I only hope there are more planning to do the same thing.

The watchtower is a despicable organization which causes a great deal of harm. I'd lie to them in a New York minute.

A lot of successful revolutions succeeded because the initial activities were subversive.

Mrs. Flipper the heathen

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The Road To Paradise Is Paved In Stupidity

by freemindfade in

at the special assembly day (sad) imitate the desert god.. here is a word for word quote from the co during the baptism talk .

"an intellectual approach to the truth will not lead to everlasting life"....

flipper

" An intellectual approach to the truth will not lead to everlasting life. "

Translation : " Turn off your minds and let us the GB and WT leaders do your thinking for you. " Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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John Lee Hooker - Jehovahs Witness

by apostrate in

a couple of excerpts from an interview with john lee hooker, american blues legend, a few years before he died in 2001. i found this to be somewhat humorous.. have you been married more than once?.

four times.

i aint never gonna get married again.

flipper

ORPHAN CREW- Yeah, you got it. Too much information. LOL. Here's another song I loved by John Lee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdeEezR_9Do&list=RDhdeEezR_9Do&index=1

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John Lee Hooker - Jehovahs Witness

by apostrate in

a couple of excerpts from an interview with john lee hooker, american blues legend, a few years before he died in 2001. i found this to be somewhat humorous.. have you been married more than once?.

four times.

i aint never gonna get married again.

flipper

John Freaking Lee Hooker was a JW ? What's this world coming to ? Weird. He must have not been a practicing JW or perhaps a closet JW , or an ex-JW who still believed in the illusions. Who knows ? Still- I loved the man's music. I'll try to forget he had a JW connection. Thanks for this bit of " lemon juice " in my wound information. LOL. Now when I think of John Lee this thought of him being a JW will creep into my head. Thanks loads. It's cool. I'll get over it. LOL

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I'm sick of...

by freemindfade in

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friends

i'm sick of.... ...having an elder i barely know invite himself over to my house, and bring another asshole elder with him, you know, to "see how i'm doing" f-ck them.

...having same elder with all insincerity approach me at the beeting and before inviting himself over, ask, "how are you doing?

" then when i say everything is great, go ahead and invite them selves over anyway.

flipper

FREEMINDFADE- I understand your frustration bro. JW's are good at ( and so are elders ) at not honoring personal boundaries that we have. They feel entitled to know everything about us- which kind of T.P. we use , if we masturbate or not, how our marriages are doing ( especially if we don't attend meetings ) , I mean- it never stops. It's ridiculous how nosy they are.

It's really none of their business. One thing you might do is text these elders before they come over to your house and say, " I appreciate your concern, but I'm doing fine. " And hang up if it's on the phone or just ignore further inquiries. When I first stopped attending meetings back in 2003 and the elders kept trying to contact me, I told them on the phone, " I have nothing to talk about with you, it's all been said. " Then I hung up the phone on them. They only tried contacting me once or twice after that and I did the same thing. Then they finally stopped.

You need to NOT feel guilty about saying NO to them. They can't do anything to you if you give them no power over you. Or give them the silent treatment. They will give up in time. And you may want to let your wife know that you don't need to talk to the elders either so you get her on YOUR side - at least somewhat on your side so she'll respect your wishes to NOT talk with the elders. Then she'll be respecting your personal boundaries as well. Just a few things I can think of here. Take care friend, we'll talk soon

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Extreme emotions re today's watchtower

by Tornintwo in

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friends

i was supposed to attend the meeting today, one of my once a month duties for the sake of my family and my fade.

i read the wt and i just can't stomach going.... what this wt does is again and again reiterate that only jws will survive the coming destruction and that they should be happy about this and raise ourselves erect...eg:.

we cannot expect that many people will suddenly convert to true christianity.

flipper

Holy shit - these people are scary.

I've never been a jw, stopped going to Catholic church at 11 years old (when mom got tired of fighting about it.) Not religious at all but know enough to "do the right thing". I had thought the Catholics were hypocrites until I learned about the jws.

When I first read this I thought it was a parody.

When I first started learning about the whole watchtower trip I asked Flipper why they call themselves Christian because any Christians I've known, including Catholics, seem to have a main goal of helping others and being kind. The witnesses are downright harsh and mean.

I decided that for the watchtower, Christianity is just a marketing tool to suck in the public.

They are so f****d up and selfish. They will throw their friends and families under the bus so they can cheat death and live forever. Then look down their noses at the "worldlies".

Yes this is nauseating.

Mrs. Flipper