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Jehovah`s Witnesses / Governing Body Claim To Abhor Child Sexual Abuse Within Their Congregations /Members who are victims.?
by smiddy3 inso my question to them is why have they continually failed to report incidents of child sexual abuse of child members in their congregations to the appropriate authorities ,either police or child protection agency`s, when they are holding judicial committees into these allegations in their congregations when they occur or even some time after ?.
they have consistently failed to do so.. and this failure to do so is not confined to one country ,it is a pattern that is repeated worldwide ,in one country after another country .
(worldwide where they operate in ).
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Request for information on Henderson Sex Abuse case in Redbluff CA
by cha ching inwe are seeking additional details regarding the child sex abuse case in redbluff, ca, around 2005-2007.. http://watchtowerdocuments.org/documents/secrets_commentary_version_2.pdf.
see pages 20-22. we are looking for first hand knowledge of these events.
our purpose is to make a compelling argument to officials with the authority to make a difference.. please pm me.. many thanks, cha ching.
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CHA CHING- You have a PM, please check. Thanks, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Happy Thanksgiving 2017
by EverApostate inonce upon a time, as a jw, i was afraid to buy turkey during thanksgiving time.
while attending the thursday night ministry school meeting (on thanksgiving day), i was cautious not to mention the word thanksgiving, for fear of bringing reproach to bigj.. now, free at last, my happy thanksgiving wishes to everyone who celebrate this holiday..
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Happy Thanksgiving everybody to you all from Mr. & Mrs. Flipper . Get some time off from work and rest folks ! Peace out.
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Charles Manson Is Dead
by Bangalore inhttps://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/20/obituaries/charles-manson-dead.html.
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Good riddance to this disgusting piece of puke. May he rot and deteriorate and become worm food .
Not only did he and his followers kill a pregnant woman and others, he forever tarnished the Beatles song ' Helter Skelter ' by giving it a totally wrong application and definition. The Beatles song ' Helter Skelter ' was a song about a roller coaster ride in England by the same name. Then Manson comes along and applies it to his race war he wanted to start. Kind of reminds me of how WT Society misuses definitions of words to serve their own cults ambitions as well. And WT Society misusing words also costs people their lives. Either wasted lives, people committing suicide, child abuse, or JW's dying due to not getting life saving blood transfusions - WT Society is a cult with cult leaders , just as much as Manson was a cult leader. Both were and are deadly and have destroyed many lives. Sick
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Death of a last Grandparent
by ScottyRex instill read this forum from time to time, and a long time member originally since early 2000's.
recently lost my last surviving grandparent, my great and wonderful nan.
what a flood of emotions that released!
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SCOTTY- My deepest condolences to you on your loss of Nan. My older folks died this last year and it is a deep pain indeed. I'm so sorry for your loss. Sincerely, Mr. Flipper
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why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?
by poopie inwhat do you think there hiding?.
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FINKELSTEIN- I agree with you that in the years I was a JW - elders in all the congregations I attended kept child abuse cases VERY quiet. Nobody knew WHAT was going on. Hell, I wasn't aware there was a WT child abuse problem until several years AFTER I exited in 2007. That being said - as the years go on the general public AND I believe JW's who are getting more frustrated are coming out more openly and talking about child abuse within their congregations as more and more of these abuse cases come tumbling out of the WT closet.
Your statement about the elders handling child abuse - " when it does occur they just basically handle it in similar fashion as another act of sexual misconduct. " I somewhat disagree with you on that statement. From all the cases of fornication and adultery I saw within JW congregations it seems like elders were MORE intent on dfing somebody on extremely slim evidence when it came to fornication and adultery. I saw cases when just hearsay would convict a person of adultery or fornication- and elders would push HARD at a person for hours on end to coerce a confession from them for adultery or fornication.
It's NOTHING like that when a case of child abuse come up in JW congregations. It's like they won't do ANYTHING to convict a pedophile unless two witnesses come against the abuser. Then, they dilly dally along while WT legal has to be contacted , and by then the pedophile has either moved to another area to escape detection, or abused 7 or 10 more children while WT legal puts their net or cloak of secrecy over the whole matter. It's fucking disgusting and criminal. So in what I've seen- WT elders are WAY more severe against acts of adultery or fornication than child abuse. And that's just wrong and criminal
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why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?
by poopie inwhat do you think there hiding?.
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Fisherman stated, " Who in their right mind would trust their 10 year old girl or 8 year old boy with a grown man ? - and then blame the Watchtower using your excuse . "
Well, I can think of at least one very famous example ( I'm sure there are more ) of the idiot elders who were in Candace Conti's old congregation who actually ASSIGNED an adult Jonathan Kendrick to work with a young 10 year old Candace Conti ALONE , so your theory has many holes in it. Then he took her back to his house and molested her.
Bottom line is elders in JW congregations are following direction from the WT legal department in PREVENTING police authorities from getting FIRST access to ANY JW child abuse cases - because they instruct the elders to report to WT legal FIRST ! Which is a crime in and of itself. Because THEN it allows more needless time to go by before police can do their investigative work into each and every child abuse case. And wasted time is something that a molested child cannot afford. Meanwhile Joe freaking pedophile keeps molesting the children while WT legal delays the child abuse case by their controlling financial " hush money " wrangling to keep everybody quiet. It's just disgusting.
Until WT Society finally gives instructions INSISTING that elders contact police authorities FIRST before ANYTHING else- the WT Society's child abuse policies will remain ineffective and disgustingly criminal
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Rock band titles from JW history / culture
by sir82 inon another thread, undercover suggested "adam and the dinosaurs".. i came up with these:.
green bible dinosaurs.
jezebel and the fornicators.
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Nephilim & the Earthly Whores
The Unholy Behemoth's
Circumstancial Fornication
Mouths of Two Witnesses
The Self Abusers
The Overlapping Generations
Mentally Unstable Partakers
Mind Controlled Freaks
The Governing Boobies
The Kingdom Hall Rip Offs
All I can think of now
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Rock band titles from JW history / culture
by sir82 inon another thread, undercover suggested "adam and the dinosaurs".. i came up with these:.
green bible dinosaurs.
jezebel and the fornicators.
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Solomon and the date clusters
Peter, Paul and Judas
Jonah and the Regurgitating Whales
Demonic Pigs off a Cliff
Balaam's Ass
Moses and the Burning Bush
Pillars of salt
Pontius Pilate & the Hand Washers
Scarlet Colored Wild Beasts
Uncircumcised Heathens
A few that I could think of off the top of my head ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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People Asking Me To Help Them Leave
by pale.emperor ini dont know if it's due to the last convention, the recent broadcasts, the internet or just plain fatigue - but since the convention i've had a few people contact me via facebook messenger asking how i am then cutting to the chase asking me what it's like "on the outside" or "how did you adjust after leaving?
" and asking me how they can leave the wt but keep their families.. my reply is always the same, i show real genuine interest and concern and listen to their situation.
then i suggest a fade, how to fade, to ignore or reject elders visits, to not talk about their doubts to active jws under any circumstances and finally point them to this site.
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Hey Pale, you're a good man and good friend to be helping these folks see the way to freedom ! Keep up the great work ! These JW's who are exiting need a support system and genuine, real people to lean on and assist them to see how to move on in life post- WT life. Good for you, and good for them