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  Leah Remini (Scientology expose' series) "May turn attention to Jehovah's Witnesses next"

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4935392/leah-remini-turn-attention-jehovah-s-witnesses.html.

  remini said that she was warned of the jehovah’s witnesses that 'these f----rs are super powerful,' but is not one to cower in fear.. 'are you ready for my response?

  'i don’t give a s--- about powerful.

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  " Please dear Jehovah, in the name of Leah Remini & Mike Rinder please make this happen. Amen " Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  Pioneer Elder Still in Jail (follow up report)

  by James Jack in

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  2. experiences

  confirmed by a family friend and elder who lives in the area!

  he was a pioneer elder in a port st lucie (river view congregation) fl, convention and assembly speaker, a"shining star" of the circuit and had served at bethel for several years.

  was sexually abusing his step daughter from age 8 to 12. his wife has divorced him and moved back to tennessee.

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  Guys like these need to be locked up for life and the key thrown away, too much of a danger in re-offending and molesting even more children. To have NO conscience whatsoever and keep giving talks at conventions faking his elder role- is disgusting. If I had a dollar for how many of these dimwits I've seen serving as elders who had no right to serve over the years I was in the JW cult- I'd be a millionaire by now. There's more of these guys than people know- and the scary thing there's probably hundreds of these predators still serving worldwide if the truth came out. I researched my hometown on the Megan's Law website to see if I noticed any JW's I used to know when I lived there and I saw 12 JW's I used to know out of the 1,000 registered sex offenders names on that list. One reason to keep making it public how criminal the WT Society policy is regarding child abuse
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  For ELDERS: Kingdom Ministry School for the 2018 Service Year (Picture)

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know wifibandit will post the pdf soon, this is just a snack for you guys and girls.... .

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  Good god almighty. Just got done reading the " instructions " ( if you can call them that ) to elders regarding child abuse in congregations. There are so many holes in these instructions like holes in a sinking ship , my god.

  Paragraph 10 , " As it says, " we're talking about an adult guilty of molesting a child, or an adult who has sexual contact with a child but did not PARTICIPATE VOLUNTARILY IN THE ACT. " WTF ? Once again like always - the WT Society leaves a door open to punishing children indicating that CHILDREN may at times participate VOLUNTARILY in a sexual act with adults. That's bullshit. A minor child 17 years old or younger is usually always intimidated by an adult ; especially if the adult threatens a child or the child's family with harm if the child refuses to have sex with the adult molester. Once again, like always in the past : WT Society is showing it's idiocy and insensitivity to the real issues of child abuse - ABUSE OF POWER - by treating it as a " sexual " sin like fornication or adultery in claiming children might be guilty at times. This shit makes me shiver in disgust at WT leaders who make this crap up.

  Also they hit on this point AGAIN ! Paragraph 14 - " Although victims of sexual abuse are not prosecuted, if the body of elders considers that the congregation should take action in the case of a MATURE CHILD who VOLUNTARILY PARTICIPATED in a wrongful act, two of it's members should call the department of service Before proceeding. " Unbelievable. Here's a concept- just make it mandatory to report any child abuse to the fucking police authorities without the whole " report to the Service Department " BS - or " report to WT legal " BS .

  And then THIS little nugget in Questions for paragraph 17 : " The Service Department will ask the elders to inform the family heads with younger children in the congregation of the need to monitor their relationship with that person. This measure will be taken ONLY WHEN THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT SO REQUIRES . Here we go again, ultimate control by the WT Society. So an elder has his hands tied by ' mother ' as to being able to warn or inform other parents of the dangers of child molesters in the congregation - not until ' mother ' says it's O.K. to do so. By that time the child molester may have raped 7 to 10 more children !

  Truth of the matter is WT Society does NOT have the skills necessary to protect their children from child molesters, nor the skills needed to address these crimes properly. They need to turn it over to police authorities first instead of putting these abuse victims and their families through a slow as molasses investigation process performed by the WT Society in a bumbling Inspector Clouseau manner . O.K. I'm done. I'm gonna pop a blood vessel if I continue here.
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  For ELDERS: Kingdom Ministry School for the 2018 Service Year (Picture)

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know wifibandit will post the pdf soon, this is just a snack for you guys and girls.... .

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  " Humility or Ability - Which Does Jehovah Prefer ? "

  Translation : We prefer elders to be idiots - that way we can mold them into being WT Society spiritual hit men to abuse the flock.

  AND - Only 45 minutes spent on point 10. " Protecting Minors from Abuse " . They should have spent at least 2 hours on this session. They spent more time on the " evaluating pioneers " part than protecting minor children. But that stands to reason - WT leaders don't put much of a priority on children's safety - only how it affects their WT bank account or how to instruct elders to keep child abuse confidential out of the earshot of " worldly " attorneys and " worldly " media so WT doesn't get exposed. Disgusting
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  Mexico News Daily: Blood transfusion case before Supreme Court

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/blood-transfusion-case-before-supreme-court/.

  blood transfusion case before supreme court.

  mother refuses transfusion on religious grounds for daughter with leukemia.

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  " The Rarimuri woman ( the JW ) has charged that in overruling her to make medical decisions on behalf of her child, she has been discriminated against on grounds of her ethnic origins and religious beliefs. " No- she's being ' discriminated ' against because she's endangering her child's life by making idiotic and death dealing medical decisions which will kill her daughter. Which is why the daughter should be kept placed under guardianship away from a mother who allows her daughter to die because of some half baked superstitious belief.
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  When someone you love has gone.

  by compound complex in

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  since i don't have you,i conjure up an image thatis both real and ideal.. what i do recall is etched in sharp relief, but deeply, in dark caverns of my mind.. the heart is a better well of reminiscence as it draws upan intangible but true past.. a newfound, tranquil corner inme reassures that love, thoughgone missing, is never lost..

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  CoCo- I love the final line to your poem- I am currently transforming into that place in my life still ( albeit at times through tears ) as my mom passed away last December and my dad died a few months ago in July. They were married almost 70 years . Music , listening to it and playing it , my wife, my adult son, and close friends and some non-JW family all help to ease that pain of loss. The ' newfound, tranquil corner ' is what I eagerly anticipate as I throw myself back into living and life, caring, and loving. As the Beatles once said, " And in the end , the love you take , is equal to the love you make."

  You are creating and making love abound by your kind poem here today. Much appreciated my friend. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  This week's "Give Us Your Money" meeting item.

  by freddo in

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  2. friends

  if you went to it, (or go later this week) how was it handled?

  just the video or some commentary too?.

  i have heard of a few negative comments from some that attended - one jw even openly said to me "not very encouraging, all they go on about is money lately" and another (a serving elder, no less) said "someone's got to pay for all those lawsuits".

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  FREDDO- Thanks for the thread. Needs to be bumped up to show the disgusting lack of shame in WT leaders begging for money
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  Signing Away Your Hard Earned Cash

  by Disassociated Lady 2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  reading the meeting workbook study for this week to see what my family will be reading at their meeting, once again they are asking for members for generous gifts not only from money they earn but also part of any investments they may have and making future arrangements for them to inherit after death through their wills.

  take a look at the lower part of the page on this link, its awful!

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20151115/donations-worldwide-work/.

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  Dissassociated Lady- Thanks for the thread and the link. It's disgusting all the ways that the WT Society begs for money out of it's JW members. WT leaders have no conscience whatsoever
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  Normal things you missed out on as a kid (besides holidays)

  by Are you serious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since me and my siblings had to go to service every saturday, and i mean every saturday, i missed out on something so normal as watching good ole saturday morning cartoons from the 70's and 80's.

  i remember wishing i could stay home just one saturday so i could watch cartoons.

  but noooo we had to go save lives!

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  As a freshman in my first year at high school, the P.E. coach saw that I had considerable skills as a baseball player. Always had good hand-eye coordination. Could hit the ball hard and ( believe it or not ) fast as lightning in the outfield ( couldn't tell now though ) . So the coach asked me to be on the team to come to practice and join up.

  I went home and asked my elder dad and he immediately said, " No, you can't be on the baseball team. It will interfere with meetings on Tuesday night " . I begged him and told him I wouldn't let it interfere, but he was determined to NOT let me be on the team. So I had to go back to school and tell my coach I couldn't join the team because of my dad. The coach was really pissed off and he just shook his head and said , " I'm sorry son " . It's a regret I'll always have from my JW youth.

  Later though I was able to pursue playing guitar and music as an adult, another thing my dad tried to restrict in me, and I'm playing guitar, singing, and writing songs to this day still. Which I'll do the rest of my life. Dad kept me from playing baseball, but he couldn't stop my music ! So that's a good thing !
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  What was the biggest thing that convinced you that

  by Ponyo in

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  2. experiences

  .....the truth was not the truth... ?

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  What made me believe it was not " the truth " ? Oh god, where do I start ?

  1. The hypocrisy among elders and appointed leaders in the JW organization. The covering over of child abuse cases to handle those cases " inside the congregation " and the preventing of victims and family of victims from going to police about it. And the WT Society's instruction to elders to call WT legal first before reporting any child abuse to police themselves. That tells you right there that all they are concerned about if paying out money to victims. And it getting leaked out to the media.

  2. The failed " last days " prophecies with no " end of the world " in sight. Over the centuries there have been hundreds if not thousands of apocalyptic cults and religions saying the "end is near, the end is near ! " - but it never happens. It's just a scam or marketing tool to keep members of these religions, Jehovah's Witnesses included , trapped in fear so as not to leave the cult or religion. A way to keep people trapped through fear. My recently deceased parents in the Witnesses since 1951 were told that they'd NEVER die. Now they're dead. And everybody else who is a JW young or old - WILL die. It's a fact of life. No one here gets out alive.

  3. The preventing of young people from going to college to get a good education in order to get a good, steady job. Disgustingly the WT Society kept telling JW's that they'd get a college education from reading the Awake magazine. What was THAT all about ? Once again, WT Society was trying to control JW's minds on what to think and how to think. Enlavement of minds.

  4. The no blood transfusion policy. Another disgusting WT policy. WT leaders should be brought up on charges of murder of thousands of JW's on this one. There should be criminal indictments of WT policy makers as thousands of minor children, as well as men and women have been allowed to die for the sake of this misguided and abhorrent policy. And then the WT Society changed the policy to allow " blood fractions " to be used by Witnesses ? Then who is to be held responsible for the thousands of deaths of JW's who refused blood before the " fraction " policy came into play ? WT leaders should he held accountable, that's who. But they won't as religion is looked at as a " sacred cow " untouchable in our American society. Disgusting if you ask me.

  5. And last but not least, the " shunning " policy in which JW's shun not only people who are difellowshipped or kicked out of the organization, but they also shun just inactive JW's who haven't attended for years. I stopped attending in 2003 and my adult daughters shun me, some of my siblings, and I'm not included in my only grandchild's life. What, if any form of that is " Christian " behavior ? Many of us EX-JW's experience this shunning and it's psychologically stressful over a long period of time. Some people can't deal with it and commit suicide as they see no end to the shunning from their family. Once again- what if any part of this policy by the WT Society is considered " Christian " ? Nothing whatsoever. It's a man made doctrine meant to keep JW's trapped mentally so that any ex-JW can't reason with active JW's and save their ass by helping them exit the JW cult. Once again, to WT leaders- it's all about CONTROLLING JW's.

  So these 5 subjects are the main ones that helped me to exit. Hope this helps. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper