Mr. Magic - Thanks for posting this thread. My wife and I watched this season 2 first episode as well about the two women who were molested . One by her Scientologist dad , and the other by a Scientology higher up. Our hearts just ached for these poor women as they tried to compose themselves while telling their horrific stories. I think my eyes were red from crying by the time this show was over as it was SO like what happens in the JW organization with the cover-ups , the shunning due to exposing the molester, etc. If ANY of you get a chance to watch this show- I highly recommend it. It will send freaking chills down your spine. And motivate you to want to expose these cults even more ! That any of these crimes can and do still happen in many religions with perpetrators getting away with it - is just barbaric in and of itself
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JWorg & Scientology both have child sex abuse coverups within
by mrmagic injust watched leah remini's season 2 episode 1 about the child sexual abuse within scientology and the coverups.
the same cookie-cutter patterns as what we have with the jehovah's witnesses.
they have mention australia and i'm wondering if the australian royal commission will one day investigate scientology.
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The Internet is worse for the Watchtower than 1975 was: here's proof.
by ILoveTTATT2 ini am translating jwfacts to spanish.
i am doing the "statistics" section.here are two graphs that show that the statistics have never been worse for the watchtower:quantity of hours required for 1 baptism: note how low it went in 1974-1975, and note that 2016 is much higher than the slump of 1978... about double, to be exact.
2016 was a historical record in this statistic (higher is worse for watchtower).. this stat is the baptisms as a percentage of the publisher average.
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I agree with the opening post that the Internet has by far been the best weapon against the growth of the Jehovah's Witnesses cult. It hasn't been just one thing exposed , especially since 1995. Not only the overlapping generation fiasco, it's been everything : the Australia commission on child abuse within the WT Society, the Candace Conti child abuse case which received a lot of mainstream media attention, the no-blood transfusion deaths which are getting more publicity in media these days, and the extreme control measures put upon rank & file JW members to " trust " the WT organization - even though they don't understand what the organization is saying. The selling off of kingdom halls making it more difficult for JW's to travel 30 minutes or an hour more to meetings. It's a combination of all of these things that starts making a JW doubt. Lack of real love , etc. Any one of these things can put a seed of doubt in a JW's mind until they get to their breaking point and have to leave.
That's how it happened with me, I reached my breaking point in order to get my freedom and happiness
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JW Kids Bullying My Daughter
by pale.emperor intrying not to type swearwords as i write this so bare with me.. my little 3yo attends meetings with her jw mum (who doesn't believe watchtower anymore but is stuck in because she relies on her family for help).
my mum (the one who tells people im dead) had a party for her grandchildren.
that's my 4 nieces and 1 nephew aged from 3yo-11yo.
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PALE- Thanks for sharing the you tube of your daughter receiving the gift from Uncle Zeb on the board . That is so sweet. Zeb is a freaking hero - I swear. It's so good to see your daughter happy and enjoying a gift that's an expression of real love or real caring from one of the board members here. I'm really happy for you and your daughter friend. Take good care of each other
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Just Offended A JW Cart Witness Without Even Trying
by pale.emperor inon my way into town from my office.
two carts set up a few feet from each other.
one manned by a man and woman (i assume they're a couple) in their late 30s.. the guys walks off to the other cart as im walking by, i wasn't going to approach but the woman holding the awake!
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Great job Pale Emperor . It appears that the JW man keeps his wife as a " slave " . I think just to stir the pot up if it was me- I would have walked back and said to the JW man, " Why are you talking so disrespectfully to your wife ? Doesn't the Bible tell you to treat her as a " weaker vessel " ? LOL. And see how he responds . Probably like a lead balloon. Just joking, I wouldn't have done that. But I'd have been tempted just to shut the mouth of the abusive JW husband.
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This might be my last post
by Akid48 inso my aunt hates pcs but works in a office job and uses a pc to do work she has worked there for 23 years she taking me and my brothers laptops etc and she said i have to earn it doing jw things studying listening at meetings etc.. so if it is the last time i post hear i thank you all for you have told me i wish the all of you the best life you can have.i will try to post hear this will start when im in school..
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AKID48- I hope you are able to join back with us soon. I've really enjoyed reading your thoughts and posts. We will be putting out positive thoughts to you for your future. Remember we will still be here as a support to you. Hang in there and get a good education. We'll be thinking of you. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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2017 Convention Recording: JWs Applaud 10yo Girl For Shunning Her Own Sister
by pale.emperor inthis poor girl was baptized at 9yo.
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she isnt old enough to buy alcohol, to vote, to decide her own medical treatment, to buy a pet, to travel alone... yet she was deemed old enough to dedicate her life to a religion that will cut her off from her family if she ever leaves.. here she is applauded for shunning her own sister who tried to keep in contact with her after waking up.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yzgnfda8ki.
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Man oh man, this is SO creepy on SO many levels. This young girl seems like an automatic programmed robot for crying out loud. No emotion, no expression of feeling on her face- not until she hears the applause from the audience - THEN she smiles due to the cult approval of her shunning her dfed sister. So freaking creepy.
Just like as some mentioned a Hitler youth talking about murdering other racial groups without facial emotion- then when applause happens that same German youth would smile due to the approval of hateful, murderous attitudes within the Nazis.
In my opinion it shows just HOW dangerous any mind control group is with this mindset. JW's, Scientology, government parties- when you get a large group of people who are all in agreement on what they consider " acceptable " behavior - even though it's awful behavior - the wolf pack mentality kicks in and reasoning and logic and decency are totally thrown by the wayside. This little girl, the woman standing by her , and the audience are all captives within a " Stockholm Syndrome " going along with their WT Society leaders and slaveholders of them while being complicit and agreeing with WT leaders. They don't have a clue that they are enslaved. Which really shows how f----ed up this is. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Glen Campbell
by glenster inrip april 22, 1936 – aug.8, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rucysj4ibwi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etkzk9pxmio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxojkdqdnbi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/glen_campbell.
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Here's a song my recently deceased mom really liked from Glen Campbell , Love you mom this one's for you- wherever you are :
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Glen Campbell
by glenster inrip april 22, 1936 – aug.8, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rucysj4ibwi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etkzk9pxmio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxojkdqdnbi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/glen_campbell.
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Glenster- I'm glad you posted a thread on Glen Campbell's passing. What a talent. Rest in peace Glen. This was one of my favorite songs from him :
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Brother & Sisters, Aunts and Uncles.....husband and wife
by menrov inwas just thinking about the practice in wt (and i believe some other religions as well) to call your fellow female (baptized) jw a sister, a brother if it is a man.
children call older people aunt or uncle.
so, at home, i can call my wife by her first name etc.
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It used to drive me freaking nuts before or after a meeting when a " brother " or a " sister " would come up to me and ask, " Hello Brother Flipper ( by my last name ) how are you doing today ? " I'd just say to them, " Oh, hi John " or " hi Nancy " then sometimes when I'd get really annoyed within myself I'd tell them, " Please call me by my first name, O.K. ? It feels more comfortable. " So I'd just speak up.
All mind control cults do this to replace our real families so that it programs the cult members mind to be more attached emotionally to the fake " brothers " & " sisters " with the same indoctrinated beliefs. It's ridiculous. Just your garden variety brain washing and mind control which many religions and mind control cults use to control people and WHO people in their organizations consider as " family " . It's actually creepy as hell. Creeps the you know what out of me. One reason again that child abuse is rampant in organizations like the JW's. Too much trust without any check systems. Uncle " Jed " or Uncle " Bob " sitting in the middle of the kingdom hall befriending young kids might be Uncle " Pervert " or Uncle " Twisted " - and none of the J-dubs even know due to TOO MUCH blind trust in each other. Scary scene man. So WT Society leaders get what they deserve in child abuse lawsuits due to no check systems
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This convention talk offended me
by Isambard Crater inhere are my notes from the r.c yesterday, the talk called "jehovah – the greatest example of endurance".
many of you will understand why i found it offensive.. jehovah has taken the hard option of choosing to endure:.
reproach to his holy name.
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I wonder if Peter Gabriel was at that talk ?