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  Why are the individuals who make up the Governing Body so deluded

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  surely these men must see what's going on.

  if they can afford fancy pinky rings, they must have smart phones.

  if they have smart phones, they must be inquisitive as to how they are perceived.

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  UNSHACKLE the CHAINS- Great point you make. The arrogance of the GB WILL be the cause of their own downfall. And you're right- there indeed may be one or two even on the GB who might have a conscience- but FEAR is a powerful tool to keep possible dissenters of the religion quiet. They would lose their family, their life, and support system if they came out against the JW cult in public. Think Ray Franz. Mind control cults like Scientology and JW's use these techniques and fear to prevent people from leaving - one reason they push the " shunning " practice so much.

  WE can only hope that someone at the top of the WT Society gathers up enough courage and strength to come out in public like Ray Franz did and either write a book or gets on nationwide media to expose the corruption of the WT Society. Many grassroots movements might be starting up - like what's happening in Poland right now with 60-80 people publicly demonstrating getting media attention. Those kinds of movements need to keep happening around the world everywhere
  
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  Hello from Rio Rancho NM

  by MattS. in

  1. jw
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  howdy all, i think i was on here a long time ago, but i digress.

  i live here in rio rancho, new mexico and was wondering if anyone here is from around these parts as well?.

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  flipper

  Hello Matt, welcome to the board ! My wife and I live out in Northern California - but a warm welcome to you anyway. If you aren't busy on July 7th to 9th we are getting together for our annual South Lake Tahoe apostafest, you are cordially invited and welcome to come as well ! It will be a lot of fun. Usually about 50 people show up. Take care, PM me if you'd like more details
  
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  Protest against Jehovah's Witness organization in Poland on March 26th, 2017, covered by a local news TV

  by WTS Archive in

  1. social
  2. current

  watch it here: .

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8koav8xzck .

  the protest was organized by a former jw elder and pioneer couple - alex and iza.

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  Very well done and organized ! THIS is what needs to happen across the United States and in other countries as well. Ex-JW's getting together in numbers of 60 - 80 people, demonstrating with signs, getting media attention in public places, and even standing outside Kingdom Hall entrances as people drive in off the street to attend. Perhaps we'll start seeing this on mainstream T.V. or Internet around the world if Ex-JW folks can consolidate efforts and stop being like cats going off in all different directions without being herded or organized. I hope more of these grass roots movements get started
  
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  Why are the individuals who make up the Governing Body so deluded

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  surely these men must see what's going on.

  if they can afford fancy pinky rings, they must have smart phones.

  if they have smart phones, they must be inquisitive as to how they are perceived.

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  UNSHACKLE the CHAINS- The ONLY reason that the GB may be inquisitive about how they are perceived is not due to having a conscience or that they feel bad about negative reports regarding them - the only reason they might be the slightest bit interested in curbing negative news is due to the financial concerns for themselves and the WT organization. WT power mongers and greed wish to keep the organization afloat as a property eating real estate corporation disguised as a " religion " .

  These are NOT men who are deluded. They know full well what kind of scam they are pulling on rank & file Jehovah's Witnesses. They have " taken the money " and ran off essentially with the use of free, donated labor from JW's - then sell the kingdom halls out from under these same Witnesses - all the while claiming WT Society has title and deed to the land and properties.

  These are NOT men who are deluded - who refuse to cooperate with orders from superior courts demanding they release data base files and names of over 20,000 pedophiles within the Jehovah's Witnesses. These WT leaders are evil, narcissistic, sociopaths who feel the laws of the land in any country do not apply to them. They feel entitled as they feel they ARE " god " essentially and have no need to answer to anyone for their actions.

  They run a criminal organization intent on harming other people and breaking up families. This meets their end game- taking away people's money and power
  
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  2017 Special Conventions.

  by ToesUp in

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  2. friends

  jw special conventions.

  who's going?.

  are you "special" enough to be chosen?.

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  DREAMERDUDE- Thanks for the info. So it's as corny as I thought then. It's the same old " we are a people for special possession " - or - " Jehovah's people are SO special " - or - " we are so separate from the world our shit doesn't stink ! " In other words- same old exclusivity crap. Makes me gag. JW's think they're so special- yet they aren't even a blip on the radar screen in the huge world view
  
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  Anthony Morris - The Higher Education Broadcast

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last night i had jw broadcasting on in the background while i was working, i like to keep up to date with their crap.

  which is strange because when i actually was a jw i hated reading or watching their material.. anyway, on the streaming section, anthony morris comes on screen telling me that higher education is bad and "the better the university, the greater the danger".

  i never would have believed it if i hadn't seen him say it myself.

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  Anthony Morris should go dig a hole for himself and crawl into it. What an idiot. Or as the sports commentator Jim Rome used to say on his show to stupid callers who called in - " stop talking " . My son now 32 years old is only a month away from getting his Bachelor's degree at college and out of the 8 JW or EX-JW adult children in my family I believe that only he and my adult niece will have Bachelor degrees. If it wasn't for both of them keeping their nose to the grindstone and persevering - they wouldn't have accomplished this. I'm deeply proud of both of these young people as the JW organization odds were stacked up against them !

  If the GB wasn't so tunnel visioned in their teachings - perhaps GB member Morris and others wouldn't just be firing on 1 brain neurotransmitter and make idiotic statements dissing higher education. They'd have multiple brain neurotransmitters firing and not be so bogged down in their own heads with cult mind control. But they have evil intent on controlling JW's lives- so they'll never change. Evil is - as evil does
  
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  2017 Special Conventions.

  by ToesUp in

  1. jw
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  jw special conventions.

  who's going?.

  are you "special" enough to be chosen?.

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  Is this the same " special " convention where they are telling JW's to " not give up " ? As the " end " hasn't come yet ? Been out of the loop so long now I don't even care. But as the saying goes " inquiring minds want to know. " Peace out, Mr. Flipper
  
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  Elder doesn't know difference between new moon and full moon

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today at the service group the elder leading couldn't figure out which was which.

  he was trying to convince us that the memorial was at the new moon.

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  " Elder doesn't know difference between new moon and full moon. "

  Is that the same as not knowing one's ass from a hole in the ground ? Peace out, Mr. Flipper
  
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  Kindness and the corporation

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i refer to the thread started by nikl quoting the daily text.

  in which the comment said:.

  kindness can help you to deal with a conflict of loyalties.. can anyone here (or there), give a verifiable example of when watchtower corporation has ever shown 'kindness' when it wasn't for some selfish gain?.

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  flipper

  Yes, Punk, I'd say that's a fair statement indeed. Great thread. Totally agree. WT leaders are in it for selfish reasons. As Blondie wrote - WT leaders never admit to mistakes , so never feel they need to be shown forgiveness, so they are very harsh and unforgiving to their JW rank & file members. The message the rank & file get is just give, give, give ,more time & money to " kingdom interests " . Translation WT Society corporate leaders interests
  
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  11. How can we show our support for the Messianic King? (From book study last night)

  by NikL in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the study was on how wt has refined itself over the years by ceasing celebrations of christmas etc.. paragraph 11.

  11 what a fine example those faithful bible students set for us!

  reflecting on their example, we do well to ask ourselves: ‘how do i view the direction we receive from headquarters?

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  Good lord - this is such nonsense and garbage.

  This quote : " Our willing obedience shows our support for the Messianic King , who is using the faithful and discreet slave to dispense timely spiritual food. "
  

  Right. Like if Jesus existed he'd pick leaders of an organization to " dispense timely spiritual food " that allow pedophiles to roam free from congregation to congregation and leaders who make excuses for their child abuse policies in not protecting innocent children ? Jesus must be pretty messed up himself if he picks these guys as spiritual " shepherds " . Sorry- I just ain't buyin ' it