RAVEN- Enjoy your lunch with your stepdad- carefully. Don't assume he won't bring up JW topics- because he probably will. Just thank him for his concern and don't give out any personal information about your living situation. Talk about the weather , movies, Donald Trump - don't set yourself up because he just possibly may be setting you up. Be cautious. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper P.S. Thanks for commenting on my mom, I appreciate your kindness.
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Lunch today with.. JW step father....
by raven init has been a while since i've posted, i think its because i have finally gotten some peace and quiet as far as harassment from the jw elders.. my step father, the one who reported me to the elder police for a sinful act invited me to lunch today.. it has been almost a year since the incident, we have talked here and there, it has been just casual though.
he says he is in town for work and asked if i would like to meet up for lunch, i couldn't think of any excuses so i agreed.. i hope it goes well, hope that we don't go into the jw nonsense.
hope he doesn't bring elders with him, am i paranoid or what?
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What is life?
by punkofnice inwhen i was a jobo, i used to thing of 'life without end at laaaasssssst'.. having been on my journey out of the wbt$ slaveholdery, i have found that something that makes sense is that life doesn't owe us a meaning.
psalms 146:4 was actually bangeth on the money-eth 'his breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.'.
although i am now very atheist, and really do not even think there is the remotest possibility of a god, that bible passage is correct.
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With that being said- I like how Outlaw copes quite well. Those are similar interests I've had in my life as well. LOL
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What is life?
by punkofnice inwhen i was a jobo, i used to thing of 'life without end at laaaasssssst'.. having been on my journey out of the wbt$ slaveholdery, i have found that something that makes sense is that life doesn't owe us a meaning.
psalms 146:4 was actually bangeth on the money-eth 'his breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.'.
although i am now very atheist, and really do not even think there is the remotest possibility of a god, that bible passage is correct.
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PUNK- I'm of the school of " I don't know " what comes after death. Kind of like the comedian Bill Maher's thoughts if you watch his documentary " Religulous " . Very good. I highly recommend it.
The way I cope is like you, play music, write songs , create, I live each day in the here and now getting the most out of life everyday. Live each day like it's my last - as you just never know. If I want to show love to somebody I give them a hug, I avoid negative people who suck the life out of me and are psychological vampires. That helps a lot.
I surround myself with people who accept me for who I am- not around people who try to mold me into being something I'm not. I take control of my life and I don't delegate my soul for anybody else's decision making processes. These are just a few tips that help me cope. I wish we could have a beer and chips someday friend. Who knows ? If I hit the jackpot before I die maybe we'll hit the pub someday and play each other our songs. Would love to do that with you someday. Take care friend- Like Jethro Tull said in the song " Nothing is Easy " - " Your fingers may freeze, worse things happen at sea, there's good times to be had. " Hope this cheers you up a bit mate. Peace out from across the pond. Mr. Flipper
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Do you use a dictionary?
by compound complex inin my work, i rely upon google for quick answers on definition (denotation), pronunciation (audio), etymology, shades of meaning (connotation), etc.. what i really mean is, do you use an actual unabridged websters, the one you get a hernia lifting?
i ask because, last night, i was tired of fighting with my two ailing computers and decided to pull the big book off the shelf.
it was great, hearkening back to olden times -- childhood -- when i read real books and periodicals and wrote unknown words into a notepad (the paper sort) and pored over old noah's offerings.. your thoughts?.
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My wife and I are big Scrabble players. We are constantly using the dictionary to not only check the spelling of words but to learn the definitions of words we don't know. WE do that when reading books too . Peace out, Mr . FLIPper -
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Has the rebranding worked?
by MrTheocratic init's been several years since the start of the rebranding of jehovahs witnesses.
i believe it started with the website change.
ever since then the religion has moved in a more modern direction.
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I'll expand on Desirous of Changes takes :
Kingdom hall take overs by WT Society are beautiful !
Traveling 30 miles out of the way to meetings is beautiful !
WT Child abuse policies are beautiful - we love children !
No blood transfusion policies are beautiful - we're faithful to Jah !
Shunning inactive JW relatives is beautiful ! Makes em' want to come back !
Not going to college is beautiful ! We get higher education reading WT !
Getting unjust treatment from elders is beautiful ! Teaches humility !
Thanks Desirous for the idea . You all get the point. JW's are CONDITIONED to think that everything the WT Society does for them has a good or positive motive behind it. It's ridiculous how naïve they are. It may kill them someday.
WT Society might tell them, " To show your faithfulness to Jehovah's loving organization we want you to jump off this high cliff into the ocean ! " And as JW's are jumping they'll be saying, " There's always the resurrection ! " They are just SOOO deluded and deceived by mind control that their brain neurotransmitters are totally shut down to see anything negative about the WT Society or it's leaders. Quite sad actually
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If this system goes on.
by karter ini heard my hard out jw sister say that for the 1st time in many years and i'm hearing more and more jw's saying that.
years ago when i was in they talked about the new system coming any minute..
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CRAZY GUY- It's more like - " millions now living will all die " . More accurate anyway. LOL. Peace out and Merry x-mas !
P.S. I'm big into studying Ancestry.com and you know the one common denominator all my ancestors share in researching almost 1,000 years back ? Yep. They all died ! I haven't found one yet that doesn't have a date of death, imagine that ? Perhaps the WT Society was wrong after all. Jeez.
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FYI: "Leah Remini's Anti-Scientology Documentary on A&E is scorching." Airs Tuesday the 29th, etc.
by AndersonsInfo inleah remini’s anti-scientology doc: former celeb wrangler admits how tom cruise was “surrounded” and isolated.
http://www.showbiz411.com/2016/11/23/leah-reminis-anti-scientology-doc-former-celeb-wrangler-admits-how-tom-cruise-was-surrounded-and-isolated.
"leah remini’s anti-scientology documentary on a&e is scorching.
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My wife and I watched this last night on Xfinity on demand - excellent ! And to have people like Mike Rinder on there who experienced things at the top of the Scientology organization and who is still being shunned by his daughters as many of us are- really hit home. I'm glad Leah made this into a series so if people miss one show- they can catch another one. These abuses need to be exposed for mainstream America to see it.
I'd love to see the same thing happen to the WT Society but I believe it would take a popular celebrity or celebrities who are Ex-JW's with lots of money in order for people to listen, wake up,and pay attention. And there just aren't that many EX-JW celebrities out there that would have the courage to do this at present. Who knows ? Barbara - Maybe you could get with Steve Hassan and work out some kind of widescale media exposure of the WT Society. I know you've done it before on Dateline- perhaps we could get some connections going . What do you think ? Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Scientology special on A&E tonight with Leah Remini
by nonjwspouse ini'm not sure where it is airing elsewhere, but on the a&e channel, at 7p then again at 10p est tonight, leah remini is doing a scientology special.
it looks to be a great show.
i am not sure if it is one time, or the beginnings of a series.
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FEDUP- Exactly, I feel the same as you. My wife and I watched Leah's show last night on xfinity on demand and we both thought it was outstanding indeed. Very well done, very professional. And to get people like Mike Rinder on there who had been at the top of the Scientology food chain to talk about the physical and psychological abuse and how even his two Scientology daughters still shun him- I got tears in my eyes because my two JW daughters have shunned me for 13 years now ! This is the same shit- different cult.
And it needs to be exposed. It's criminal. I'm glad Leah has this as a series so if people miss one episode they can tune into other episodes. I wish Jehovah's Witnesses would be exposed like this but the big problem is the general public will pay attention to the Scientology scandals more than JW scandals due to lots of Hollywood glitz and glamour being a part of Scientology. What " stars " or " celebrities " do JW's have that would do what Leah is doing ? George Benson ? I think not. Serena Williams ? Nope. She's not even officially baptized as a JW. Prince ? He's dead.
It will take a person of STRONG ethics and moral character to expose the WT Society and it would need to be somebody that the main media looks up to as a celebrity or a so-called " guru " or " expert " on these subjects. I think if Steve Hassan was able to get some celebrity ex-JW's to expose the WT Society's practices of shunning, blood transfusions, or child abuse practices to go on a show- perhaps it would get some attention. But even Hassan may want to avoid lawsuits from the WT Society as other celebrities would. It's going to take someone very well known with a shitload of money to get this message out to mainstream America . In order to get people to wake up and pay attention
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Scientology special on A&E tonight with Leah Remini
by nonjwspouse ini'm not sure where it is airing elsewhere, but on the a&e channel, at 7p then again at 10p est tonight, leah remini is doing a scientology special.
it looks to be a great show.
i am not sure if it is one time, or the beginnings of a series.
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I have a lot of admiration for Leah Remini to put this together. Takes a lot of courage after what she went through being abused by the Scientology cult herself. My wife and I read her book . Outstanding, I highly recommend reading it if you are able to get a copy. I didn't watch this last night- but I intend to watch it tonight or tomorrow on Xfinity on demand on cable . Nice feature to have to catch shows we missed
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If this system goes on.
by karter ini heard my hard out jw sister say that for the 1st time in many years and i'm hearing more and more jw's saying that.
years ago when i was in they talked about the new system coming any minute..
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When I hear a JW say " even IF this system goes on " - I usually tell them right after they say that - " oh, don't worry it WILL go on. " I was telling my older JW dad that I'd get some stuff paid off in about 3 years and he said, " this system may not be here still ".
My reply was, " Yeah dad, it will be here still, I'm sure of it. " I truly believe the WT Society is criminal in making these older JW's believe they won't die. I mean - Jesus Christ- look at em' all ! With wrinkles and growing scales ? I mean can you imagine the cognizant dissonance 80 to 90 year old JW's are experiencing right now ? It's like , " Oh shit. Paradise hasn't come yet and I'm dying. WTF is happening ? " You KNOW that stuff has to be playing out in their collective minds right now . Very sad. 8 million people were lied to believing they'd live forever and not have to die