Posts by flipper

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Hey, Y'all

by snowbird in

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how is everybody doing?.

it's been 8 months since i've been here.. so many newbies!.

lol.. sylvia.

SNOWBIRD- How the hell you been doing sis ? Good to have you back ! Wife and I are doin' fine, just staying busy with work and chilling when we get a chance. Looking forward to another big ex-JW gathering this summer. 9th straight year we've gotten together out here in California. People from all over. It will be lots of fun. Maybe some time you can join us ? Wife & I send our love, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Who is your " I am" that your voice should be heard?

by The Rebel in

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i was recently thinking before i became " mike" i was an innocent baby, then as the days passed slowly by, i developed a sence of " iam".

as the days moved forward my body, slowly developed a a "sex organ" whilst my mind took on a sence of " emotional" and " intellectual" i am" .

this allowed me to become my current " i am?.

flipper

THE REBEL- Interesting thread. I've always enjoyed studying psychology and the mind. What makes people tick- so to speak. I'll give a stab at your first A. , B. & C. questions. Then I'll give my opinion on your second batch of A., B. & C. questions. I'll answer as honestly as I can at this stage in my life at age 56.

Your first 3 questions first :

A ) How much do I now know who " I am " ? I know myself a hell of a lot better than I did growing up in a mind control cult called Jehovah's Witnesses - that's for sure ! In the 13 years since 2003 when I exited my mind is more free thinking, I have better critical thinking skills that I didn't have 13 years ago - and I'm a much more laid back, chill person and less judgmental than I was as a JW. I'm actually fun to be around now and have made some great unconditional friends. I'm a fair individual who stands up for justice and the oppressed. And music has become an even larger part of my life - music heals , playing it on an instrument, singing it, and listening to musically talented artists. It feeds my soul. It's " who I am ". Family that loves each other is everything to me now. I'm close to all my ex-JW or non-JW family - much more so than the judgmental JW family I had. It's who I am. But I'll be there for the JW family if they choose to exit the cult.

B ) Is our biological sexual persuasion to be judged to be judged by other people's " I am " ? No, of course not. Unless that biological " sexual persuasion " involves criminal child molestation or abusing farm animals or any animals or being abusive to midgets like Peter Dinkley - but I digress.

I feel that a person's sexual persuasion is a personal thing, homosexuality is fine, straight is fine , bi-sexual is fine - it's a personal thing determined biologically most probably since our birth. People get way too hung up on sex in a " puritanical " way in our society- no thanks to all the control and pressure that organized religion brings on people in various society's.

C ) How many of our political and religious beliefs are influenced by other people's " I am " ? FAR too many people's views are influenced by other people's " I am " - in my opinion. People need to learn to think for themselves critically instead of being led like sheep to the slaughter mentally and psychologically . In our society people are way too often like flocks of geese that fly south for the winter in formation - just because everybody else's " I am " tells them to do so. If you don't believe me- just look at our political process of who is voting for who in our presidential elections. It's a joke. How many people support Trump or Clinton - yet their character ( or lack thereof in Trump ) or possible crimes they've committed in their past ( in Clinton's case ) don't seem to matter to much of our population. It tells you all you need to know about much of the population's own " I am ". They have no soul, no compass of right or wrong.

And as far as religious beliefs ? Religion in general has caused so much division , wars, and prejudice in this world - millions of people have died needlessly defending idiotic religious beliefs that harm themselves and other people. And once again- people DO NOT THINK with their minds. They just follow along like sheep to the slaughter. It's like wrestling with pigs in the mud when we follow unscrupulous religions that are unethical. The " pigs " or religious leaders like it - they are corrupt - and then we get muddy as well being in their mire like victims of the Stockholm Syndrome. Many people in religion are like this - they want to be led and they really don't care who leads them- they just don't want to think for themselves. It takes too much effort.

Now for your 2nd batch of questions :

A ) Who are you ? I'm Flipper, can't give my real name right here on this confidential board as I still have JW relatives who would shun me or cut me out of my possible inheritance if I identified myself.

B ) Why do you believe as you do ? I have ethics I feel that are fair, just, and reasonable. I respect others rights to believe as they do- but to not push their politics, religion on me or force me to lose my freedom of mind and decision. I treat others as I would want to be treated. I think peace will at least HELP all of us exist a little easier on this planet - so I sing about fairness, justice, and acceptance in a lot of the songs I write. And yet I feel it's important to expose criminal behavior within politics, religious groups , and others who abuse power in order to take over the human race. So my beliefs are balanced with a love of justice - yet also accepting people for what they are.

I realize it's not my place to change the entire planet- but if I can give a little light and a little love to people each day in my own geographical area or friends here and elsewhere, my family, wife - then I feel I can bring good effects to various life situations with many people. You know- spread good vibes and bring a positive vibration each day to the planet. Kind of how I roll when waking up each day. I try to dwell on the positive, eliminate the negative as much as possible. I cannot totally eliminate negative- it's part of life- but at least minimize it. Basically my views.

C ) Why do you think it important other people Believe what you believe ? I don't think that it's important for other people to believe what I believe. They can believe whatever they want to believe. I do think that I try to facilitate peace in many ways- I think everybody should pursue peace- but everybody has their own way to pursue it. I think the human race is capable of many great things - but all people being clones of one another is not a good way to do it. All people being controlled into one belief - is not a good thing. I believe that many good people on this planet can and will accomplish pursuing peace in various different ways- the variety of ideas, input, and views of different humans is what makes the world interesting and go around.

These things may not ever be accomplished by large governmental or religious leaders - due to stubborn love of power, greed, and money- but I feel each of us can be who we want to be and promote peace in our own little area of earth each day ! And THAT is the beauty of it- world leaders cannot control our mind, love for each other - if we don't allow them to . Kind of my world view. But I respect others world views too- as long as they don't abuse, kill. or maim other innocent people

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George Benson & Sheila Hutchinson on JW Broadcasting

by neat blue dog in

i am thoroughly surprised nobody has brought this up yet, but two of the original songs released last year, "i give you my best" & "jehovah welcomes you home" were performed by george benson, and the first one was a duet with singer sheila hutchinson, the same one who did duets with him over 10 years ago for the cancelled album mentioned in our kingdom ministry.

compare this:.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=58_mjyndcey.

flipper

Oh my god. These songs make me want to barf. Talk about elevator music. Save me Jesus

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My brother died last night

by LisaRose in

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i found out this morning that my brother died last night, he was also an ex jw, 73 years old and died of heart disease and kidney failure.

it was not totally unexpected, as he had been in poor health, but it's a blow, especially as i just lost another brother two years ago.

there were six of us, now only four.

flipper

LISA- Was out of town for a few days, I join my wife in offering my deepest sympathies to you on the loss of your brother. I'm so sorry. Sincerely, Mr. Flipper

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Hi everyone!

by cognac in

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was just listening to a song that made me think of the jws so thought i'd say hi and see how everyone is.

i'm doing ok. kids are fine.

i'm good, making tons of friends, very successful in my career, bla bla bla.

flipper

Hey, Cognac, I've been thinking of you. Glad to hear all is well. Not surprised that you are making friends and doing well!

Mrs. F

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My brother died last night

by LisaRose in

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i found out this morning that my brother died last night, he was also an ex jw, 73 years old and died of heart disease and kidney failure.

it was not totally unexpected, as he had been in poor health, but it's a blow, especially as i just lost another brother two years ago.

there were six of us, now only four.

flipper

So sorry, Lisa. Take care.

Mrs. Flipper

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RC 2016 Leaks & Releases

by wifibandit in

in an effort to reduce the number of posts, this year i will try to add links to this post.

now, on with the leaks & releases!

first up.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nzvwhflss4.

flipper

What an absolutely disgusting you tube by the WT Society. Made me sick to my stomach. Young people in their 20's are constantly being bombarded in this organization to sacrifice any financial stability for the sake of " kingdom interests " - translation " WT Society financial interests " . Then these same mind controlled people when they become older people are duped and deceived into giving their inheritances to the WT Society. So you have generation after generation of financial abuse from the WT Society towards it's members - without EVER delivering on the promises of an alleged " paradise " to live " forever " in.

Just the fact that this you tube has a scene depicting the start of the " great tribulation " is a deceptive ploy to make JW's THINK it's really going to happen. A marketing tool using FEAR to make their thoughts turn to giving up material pursuits for the WT Society's benefit. Just disgusting, mind blowing propaganda

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New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

by ttdtt in

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

disgusting!.

flipper

Once again this video shows the WT Society starts very young people out to not accept other people's private lives. WT Society trains young people at a young age to not respect personal boundaries or privacy of others. And then the JW mother in the video tells her daughter to speak about the fictitious, imaginary alleged " paradise " and fictional " living forever " to her classmate. To offer false hopes to other young people that will never come true in reality is criminal in and of itself. So is putting down another young persons parent for their sexual preference. WT organization does NOT recognize personal boundaries

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Today the two elders did not appear to declare at prosecutor's citation

by opusdei1972 in

today the two elders who stalked my sister were absent at the prosecutor's citation.

they were waited for 1 hour, but they did not come.

this attitude favors their culpability.

flipper

Good points Anders & Smiddy. This is an important thread I feel to keep bumped up for the reason that it's exposing the WT Society as a covert organization that is telling it's elders to NOT testify in courts of the land AND WT is apparently instructing elders to secretly call up JW's who they want to kick out- and harass and threaten them with expulsion if these JW's testify or sue the WT or local elders. One way I guess the WT Society leaders feel empowered are the only ways that they know in how to get rid of their enemies - either pay them off exorbitant sums of money to keep them quiet about child abuse- or eliminate these " enemies " who talk too much by DFing them or expelling them out of the congregation. Even if by harassing phone calls. Disgusting

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“Even if this wasn’t the Truth, I need the structure.”

by Londo111 in

i remember many years back a fellow ministerial servant saying this to me.

he felt that even if jehovah’s witnesses were not the only true religion, the regimented routine of meetings and field service and the strict rules and enforcement provided a beneficial structure for his life.

at the time i thought if this wasn’t “the truth”, i’d have no need for all that “structure”.

flipper

LONDO- Excellent thread ! Bingo, you nailed it. Many of us have the ability to be decent, moral, good human beings without an organization or sky daddy telling us to do so. I've always felt that the " inherited sin from Adam " thing and - " we are such sinners we need direction " thing is a bunch of crap. I think babies are born beautiful and perfect- it's not until they start getting influenced by prejudiced adults around them with skewed views of life and skewed prejudices of others that young people start going astray. And this includes children getting skewed views from their parents religious beliefs as well.

If a JW would just sit and listen to themselves make this statement in your opening thread, how absurd it sounds, " Even if this wasn't the Truth, I need the Structure ". Great. Then a person is going to live their life on untruths until they die ? And even worse base their lives on " structured untruths " ? Then they get REALLY stuck because it's TOO structured where they can't think for themselves or think critically if these " structured untruths " don't work out very well. It's a dark rabbit hole that many JW's never recover from. Luckily Londo- you HAVE recovered like lots of us here ! A toast to freedom of mind. It's too valuable to ever lose again for any of us ! Peace out, mr. Flipper