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  A Subtle Factor That Keeps Witnesses Silenced

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  had an interesting thought this morning.

  when a witness is 'in' they think everyone else is following and trying there best all in unity.

  i believe the reality is there are a lot of us 'in' who know different.

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  After seeing the HBO Scientology documentary, it's striking how similar it is to the Watchtower. The rat-fink mentality and shunning policies are the only things that keep the membership in. The creeps at the top know it.

  Confronting JWs with all the scandals going on usually causes them to parrot the latest preemptive damage control put out by the Watchtower.

  Maybe a better way to make them actually think is to ask what percentage of the membership would stay if the shunning policy was discontinued for real.

  Mrs. Flip
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  Pregnant women refuses blood

  by Giordano in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/jw-refusal-of-blood-transfusion-mother-and-baby-die#more-4001.

  a 28-year-old woman and her unborn child have died because of the womans decision not to accept a lifesaving blood transfusion.. doctors at the royal hospital for women and prince of wales hospital in randwick, sydney, australia, have described the harrowing effect on hospital staff of two otherwise avoidable deaths.. the woman, a jehovahs witness, was seven months into her pregnancy when it was discovered she had leukaemia.. amy corderoy, health editor, reporting in the sydney morning herald states,.

  more than 80% of pregnant women suffering from the cancer, called acute promyelocytic leukaemia, will go into remission with proper treatment, and the outlook for their babies is good.. .

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  ORPHAN CROW- Thanks for the information. I had no idea that many JW's had died due to not taking blood transfusions. What a criminal organization the WT Society really is. Sick
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  Do JWs suffer from Stockholm Syndrome?

  by campaign of hate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this topic is what what it says on the tin.

  do jws suffer/are suffering, from stockholm syndrome?.

  getting abused (mentally) and then seem to form a relationship with the captives (wtbts).. there is also a condition called oslo syndrome, but haven't read up much about it.. personally, i think i might be suffering from the former.. would love to get a few opinions.....

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  Orphan Crow- Very good points you make. I agree wholeheartedly . And like I mentioned WT Society is already killing people with their no-blood policies , suicides by shunning, also the Malawi JW's not signing the political party card , I mean- it goes on and on. WT Society has a lot of blood guilt on it's head by pushing erroneous teachings into the heads of their JW members. WT leaders need to answer for their crimes
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  A Subtle Factor That Keeps Witnesses Silenced

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  had an interesting thought this morning.

  when a witness is 'in' they think everyone else is following and trying there best all in unity.

  i believe the reality is there are a lot of us 'in' who know different.

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  Very good thread. I had doubts for years from 1989 on - and didn't exit finally until 2003 out of fear of reprisal from my fanatic then JW wife. I kept my doubts to myself for fear of being turned into the elders or that my JW family would shun me. Which to a good part happened ANYWAY after I left in 2003. LOL. However- by the time I actually exited the JW cult I had fortified my mind and built up my strength of conviction AGAINST the WT organization in realizing I was doing the RIGHT thing in exiting a criminal organization . So I understand the timidity of JW's not speaking out loud against the WT Society - they feel they'll lose everything
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  Accident

  by Louise in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so over easter weekend i was house sitting a lovely place.

  the back door was sticking and so in order to close it, gave it a pull with all my might.

  my thumb happened to be nestled in the gap of the kitchen door.

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  LOUISE- So sorry to see that you bashed your thumb. Ouch ! I'm glad you got to the hospital and received stitches. Hope you heal up well. I'm sure it hurt like hell.

  It's amazing how we can take our fingers for granted. I was sitting at my sons house the other day and my chair was on an incline- my chair accidentally tipped over ( I was sober ) and I tried to stop my fall and bashed my right pinky finger onto his BBQ grill. Sprained it really bad- I think- although I can't get the top joint to bend yet - been about 2 weeks swellings gone down but I might have to see the Doc about it.

  I wish you the best of luck and man oh man- we all gotta treasure our thumbs and fingers ! Take care sis ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  Do JWs suffer from Stockholm Syndrome?

  by campaign of hate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this topic is what what it says on the tin.

  do jws suffer/are suffering, from stockholm syndrome?.

  getting abused (mentally) and then seem to form a relationship with the captives (wtbts).. there is also a condition called oslo syndrome, but haven't read up much about it.. personally, i think i might be suffering from the former.. would love to get a few opinions.....

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  CAMPAIGN of HATE- Great thread ! Thanks for posting it. Indeed I agree with you and Orphan Crow that JW's are suffering from " Stockholm Syndrome " without even realizing it- and that's how it works. They are led to identify with their captors ( WT Society leaders /GB ) and " supporting the abusers reasons and behaviors " ( clamoring for a paradise and out of the same mouth upholding WT Society's policies towards pedophiles and child molesters ) , " isolation from perspectives other than the abuser " ( no amount of reasoning with mind controlled JW's who are NOT allowed to view ANYTHING critical of WT Society rhetoric or teachings - AKA " apostate " views ) .

  I just got done reading a Rolling Stone magazine article on the Isis group and how aggressively they recruit young people from America with false promises of a " paradise " and how they promise these young people will " make a difference " in standing up for Allah or Muhammed - and how they are perceived as strong Spiritually for doing so and they use the term that they " have the truth " as well.

  I agree with Orphan Crow that Jehovah's Witnesses are JUST as dangerous as radical Muslim terrorists or Isis - but in a different fashion- JW's may not be killing people literally in a violent fashion ( although thousands have died due to the WT Society no-blood policy , suicides due to shunning , and abuses due to molestations of children ) - but the message is JUST as destructive making JW's feel they are ABOVE and BETTER or somehow have a " higher purpose " than the rest of mankind and all other humans MUST capitulate or accept the WT Society's " God " or " purpose ".

  When you really sit and think about it there is not much difference with the radical belief systems of Isis and Jehovah's Witnesses - one is more violent than the other - but the element of devotion and the Stockholm Syndrome is alive and well in both organizations. I appreciate Orphan Crows comparisons. it's really eerie when you think of how both groups individual minds in people are altered , manipulated, and controlled. Pretty scary
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  Pregnant women refuses blood

  by Giordano in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/jw-refusal-of-blood-transfusion-mother-and-baby-die#more-4001.

  a 28-year-old woman and her unborn child have died because of the womans decision not to accept a lifesaving blood transfusion.. doctors at the royal hospital for women and prince of wales hospital in randwick, sydney, australia, have described the harrowing effect on hospital staff of two otherwise avoidable deaths.. the woman, a jehovahs witness, was seven months into her pregnancy when it was discovered she had leukaemia.. amy corderoy, health editor, reporting in the sydney morning herald states,.

  more than 80% of pregnant women suffering from the cancer, called acute promyelocytic leukaemia, will go into remission with proper treatment, and the outlook for their babies is good.. .

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  This is so disgusting it makes me want to puke all over the faces of the governing body members. These bastards need to be brought up on charges of crimes against humanity with the no blood transfusion issue. How many thousands of mind controlled brain dead JW's have lost their lives by following this advice or lost their children's lives by refusing blood ? WT Society leaders are blood guilty- plain and simple. How many more lives will be lost before WT leaders are held accountable for these crimes ? It makes me so angry. Stupid mind controlled woman cost herself AND her unborn child it's life by following a bunch of idiotic fools leading JW's to their deaths
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  ABC's report on child abuse

  by Joyzabel in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  nice job!

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  This was really a huge ABC news report on WT child abuse in the Candace Conti case. Bumping this up for any newer members or lurking JW's to watch the you tube if they missed it
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  HBO Scientology Documentary

  by tresdecu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has anyone else seen the hbo scientology documentary 'going clear' - wow...cults are just mind-blowing you wonder how people can fall for that garbage, then you (those of us former/fading jws) look in the mirror.. i would love for someone to make a major jw documentary like this.

  'going clear' is getting a lot of press.

  poor tom cruise...he looks like quite the whack job in it too.

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  This documentary was great. Very informative. It would be good for any ex-JW to watch to see the comparisons to the JW cult. The mind control is very similar. If any of you get a chance to watch " Going Clear " on you tube exposing the injustices of Scientology I highly recommend it
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  Oregon, Hillsboro Tribune, Article: Jehovah's Witness sex abuse case in feds' hands

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.pamplinmedia.com/ht/117-hillsboro-tribune-news/255785-125363-jehovahs-witness-sex-abuse-case-in-feds-hands.

  lawsuit seeks $10.5 million from hillsboro church, watchtower society .

  attorneys for a 40-year-old woman and a 38-year-old man who say they were sexually abused nearly 30 years ago by a church elder in hillsboro want to have a lawsuit filed by the pair last fall placed back in state court jurisdiction.

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  VIDIOT- I agree- WT Society is reaching the nightmare stage with all the child abuse lawsuits coming against them. I hope their nightmare continues. They deserve what they have coming at them