Posts by flipper

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How do you feel about religion as a whole?

by FatherFirst in

it just seems to me religion in general primarily makes truly bad people worse, not genuinly good people better; and in many cases has even made good people do bad things in the name of their religion.

just curious, a personal poll if you will.

what are you guys' current views on religion as a whole?

flipper

Religion as a whole ? It sucks. Much of the religion today makes normal people turn their brains and neurotransmitters in their brains to superstitious silly putty - relying on inconclusive stories from the Bible and/or their Pastor's/ Minister's or elder's.

The rich, elite and powerful find religion useful to control the poor, downtrodden , insecure and weaker powerless people of society. People give all their power and control of their lives to religions hoping to find answers to life's questions - an easy way out - so to speak - so they don't have to find their own answers. It's much easier for some of these people to let somebody else explain the meaning of life to them , than for them to actually LIVE life in the here and now and not worry about a " living forever ", " going to heaven " , or a " rapture ". Reality is good- it's nothing to fear. So my message to religious people is stop being superstitious and enjoy living your life in the here and now. How I see it. Some people feel they need answers supplied to them- other people just let life educate them with answers learned in day to day living

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Newbies , Are We Seeing An Accelerated Increase? This Past Year ? Newbies Feel free To Respond Please .

by smiddy in

jw
friends

is it just me or does anyone else see more newbies joining this site this past year and especially in the last few months .. we would love to welcome you with genuine friendship ,support ,encouragement ,a place to vent ,and not judge you.. you have the freedom to express whatever view you like and you won`t be kicked off the board.. and to learn more about the "truth" about the truth , you will not hear at a kingdom hall .. smiddy.

flipper

I just want to say " hi " and welcome all you newer members here. It's really cool to have you here. Peace & love, Mr. Flipper

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Walking Dead season 5 is finished!

by stuckinarut2 in

so the walking dead season 5 has finished??.

now what am i going to do if i want to watch brain dead rotten corpses attack the living and suck the life out of them??.

oh, no hang on...it's ok.....i can just watch the gb on jw.tv.org!.

flipper

IVANATAHAN & WASANELDERONCE- Thanks for the catch up on Rick's friend, Morgan. We initially started watching the show in it's first season, but missed some of the second season and so forth. We've gone back to watching all the episodes this year - so I appreciate the updates. Will look forward to seeing it start back up later ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

by Simon in

sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

"oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

you're fired!"..

flipper

You would think the president of the United States could invoke some sort of constitutional rules or laws into effect to prevent the Indiana Governor " Dickhead " to not be able to pass such prejudiced laws.

Out here in California there has been some jerk off attorney trying to get passed in legislation to " kill gays and lesbians ". Absolutely horrific. Our Attorney General Kamala Harris is working on getting that eliminated and not allowed to even be submitted on a bill.

I don't believe in the Bible, but when you see idiots like this governor or attorney in California doing such despicable actions - when Proverbs said, " foolishness has been put in many high positions. " Man- no truer words have been spoken especially in instances like this concerning prejudice and discrimination no matter who it's against. One reason I wrote a song titled : " Prejudice and Ignorance. " Because the two phrases go hand in hand. Can't have one without the other

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I Should Have Just Kept Avoiding Their Videos

by OnTheWayOut in

i have a 2011 new year resolution to avoid reading jw literature or watch their videos.i am not "religious" about it, and will watch/read excerpts, but pretty much stick with that resolution as it only angers me when i read the stuff.. well, someone posted their video of philippines disaster relief due to a 2013 typhoon as a response to a news article to demonstrate that they are not really helping and that it is just propaganda.

i watched the video and was immediately able to see what the hell is wrong with jw's and their leadership and, as i figured- i was angered.. so i will post this link, but then go back to not watching/reading.

it just isn't worth it.. in the video, when they knew the storm was coming, the pre-planned disaster relief people texted elders to warn them to evacuate.

flipper

OTWO- Wow. I just saw the you tube - it is SO pushing WT marketing it's ridiculous. As always they only emphasize the " good " that the " brothers and sisters " or WT Society is doing, typical.

But I found these quotes interesting - The young girl walking through the kitchen saying, " we put the literature in the refrigerator " And there it was literature stuffed into a refrigerator. A priority in life saving times ? And the 13 year old survivor who lost her family stating, " the brothers tell me that in the last days we cannot avoid calamities like this. " Like any supposed time period has any bearing on when a 250 mile per hour typhoon hits. And she stated, " the elders told me it was O.K. to cry " ( I'm glad she got permission ) and they reminded me to " read scriptures that reminded me of the resurrection. " Like that should soften the blow of losing her family ? Sick .

And then the well fed Mark Sanderson stating, " Sometimes you feel overwhelmed , Jehovah will help you out through what you're experiencing. " As he can easily go back to his fat cat Bethel apartment with being well provided for by the WT Society as he advises the homeless Phillipine brothers what to do. WT Society always pats itself on the back like nobody else on the planet cares. Pretty weird. I can see why this upset you, me too

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I have a serious problem

by My Name is of No Consequence in

i have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.

i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.

i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.

flipper

I agree with others good suggestions here and handle this like - right now. Or as soon as possible. Your wife IS disrespecting you because she feels you aren't being the alleged " spiritual head " of the family - so she disrespectfully gets some other guy in the congregation to study with your son. That's ridiculous. First off I think you need to explain to your wife that SHE is in the wrong not respecting you by keeping you out of the loop. Then go tell the " brother " studying with your child that you don't respect him for going behind your back- then go to the elders telling them that you and your wife will handle any " teaching " of info to your son.

Bottom line like Outlaw said and you need to keep this firmly in your mind - these people ARE trying to break your family up. You've been conditioned by WT mind control to think it's to " help " or " assist " your son- the only thing it's going to assist is implanting thoughts into your son's head that YOU his dad are evil and his MOM is considered " righteous " by WT standards- so you lose by default. They try to cut you off from your son. It's time to cowboy up and take the reins on this horse and seize control of the situation or they will kick you off of the horse. Kind of how I see it. Good luck, we are here for you, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Walking Dead season 5 is finished!

by stuckinarut2 in

so the walking dead season 5 has finished??.

now what am i going to do if i want to watch brain dead rotten corpses attack the living and suck the life out of them??.

oh, no hang on...it's ok.....i can just watch the gb on jw.tv.org!.

flipper

Wife and I watched the final show- it was good . Too bad the " cult compound " boss ladies husband got killed - but I'm curious - any ideas on who the new guy is in the show that came to the compound and said " Hello Rick " ? To Rick ? He could sure fight good when he helped save the other two guys earlier in the show. Is he a former sheriff friend of Rick's I guess ? Any opinions ? I guess we'll just have to keep watching " WT Society Night of the Living Dead GB Members 2.0 " for awhile. LOL

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Why attack?

by newqatarjob in

as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!

) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.

i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.

flipper

MAD IRISHMAN- If you took some time to do research if only about the WT Society child abuse scandals and their criminal policies towards victims- you would understand the " hate " some of us have towards this organization and it's policy makers WT leaders. Of course there is no love lost between some of us and the WT Society, I mean- come on- we've been shunned, kicked out of our families, children molested and receiving no justice, and disfellowshipped people committing suicide due to being cut off by WT Society instructed religious crazy zealots ! Open your eyes. What we feel towards the WT Society is RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION - not hatred. We " hate " the evil policies. Does that clear things up for you ? There's a big difference in how you CLAIM we are- as opposed to what we as ex-JW's REALLY do

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DC2015 New Release: Brochure "Return to Jehovah" for those who faded/left

by Designer Stubble in

it appears that a new 16-page brochure, with the title "return to jehovah" is to be released at the regional convention (dc) this year.

it would be written specifically for those faded or da/df.chapters are:a letter from the governing body1.

the lost one i will search for2.

flipper

Yeah, I think this is a desperate PR move to not only APPEAR ( remember everything's about appearance to WT leaders ) to be trying to retrieve the " lost sheep " but it gives the illusion to active JW's that the GB really cares about the inactive ones.

On a more realistic note as some mention on this thread- GB knows lots of JW's ARE exiting so they want to stem the tide by coming out with a re-hashed information brochure to desperately try to prevent inactive ones from exiting . WT leaders are having a hard time dealing with the PR of Candace Conti's comments that ex-JW's are considered " walking dead " - so they have to do something here to give the impression they are " concerned " about exiting JW's. My 2 cents

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Why attack?

by newqatarjob in

as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!

) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.

i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.

flipper

I agree with Marina ( IOWNMYLIFE ) a lot of these JW's cannot stand the fact that many of us ex-JW's or inactive JW's who left have the moral fortitude to stand up for what they believe in and actually leave the organization to attain freedom of mind. It's like these JW's MAY have doubts within- but they don't have the moral character or commitment to carry OUT those doubts into exiting the organization- so they lash out at us who HAVE left out of envy, spite, or just jealousy that we had the courage to stay true to our beliefs that the WT Society is false and we followed through.

Because even if these folks ( JW's ) are shown about the injustices of the WT Society- they will remain in it for family - yet within themselves TO themselves they are not being true as they don't believe in it. So they'll remain not totally committed to anything really - just spending their lives deluding themselves that they are morally of good, complete character. Kind of how I see it . Peace out, mr. Flipper